Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I thought I was aggressive last year winning Gates for 1615. Brian's bid of 1800 stunned me. Wow.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

It's time I start driving that bandwagon! Road kill no more.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

In reading through the RFA rules yesterday, I found this nugget that I bet some people didn't know:

"Once the RFA Free Agent bidding opens on April 1, a team CANNOT withdraw it's tender without being assessed the 20% cap penalty."

What this means is that you can essentially "cut" your RFA - you withdraw the tender and take a 20% penalty (the standard cut penalty). I'm not sure if that's ever been done, but I wanted to point out that it's an option if you need to clear cap space during the RFA period.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Pretty sure that has been done. That line is basically about making the tender's guaranteed.

Owens
 

Getcha popcorn ready!

:popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2:

I think I heard that Owens is hurt too - lot of that going around this offseason.:wink:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Looks like I under estimated Ol' Clark's value.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I thought you were just trying to get him on the cheap. Definitely a first round tender TE IMO.

Owens
 

Quotes from today's press conference with Terrell Owens:

"I couldn't be more excited about getting here and being apart of this franchise - I'd be a star among stars." (Addressing his pending signing with the Avengers)
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><o:p>“Like I always said, if I'm one of the top players in the game, pay me like I'm one of the top players in the game - the Avengers are willing to make that commitment.”<o:p></o:p>
"My main focus is to win a championship, as it has always been."
"I'm not really interested in looking back to the past. I've made some mistakes. I know that. But it starts today. You can't ever move forward if you keep bringing up the past."<o:p><?xml:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /><v:shapetype id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"> </v:shapetype></o:p>

Come to daddy...
</o:p></o:p>

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Mike, don't get mad if I do another 47th hour bid on Johnson come Friday afternoon! :D If Joel uses his full 72 hours on Parker, I may not have a choice. I'm not letting the #3 and #4 (IMO) RBs slip through my grasp by letting one go just because I'm on one of them (like I did with LT and Westbrook).

I gots to get me a stud RB!!!

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Oh I understand... it doesn't make it any easier though! 61 freakin minutes!

:rant:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I hope all these delays on decisions to match/decline have some solid strategic purpose, because its really crampin my bidding style.

BTW - 1800 for McGahee? Y'all must be crazy. The guy is a workhorse. He overcomes an amputated leg at the end of his college career - his motor never stops, he always gives 110%, he's hungry for a championship, insert additional cliche here. He plays for Brian Billi... He's got a good quarterba... He's got good wide recei... hmmmmm, maybe 1800 is right.

Disclaimer - if this is fishing, I apologize, I just couldn't stand the stagnation on our message board any longer.

:kickrock: :insane:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

McGahee is a complete TOOL

I won't bid on him based on principle

BTW, go back to :fishing: I was just having a bad day... my apologies

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

If you mean that he is an essential component in getting the job done, then I completely agree.

Ragers - you're not fooling anybody with this McGahee bid, we all know you're still gonna match Johnson.
:stirspot:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

We'll just have to wait and find out don't we?

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

And finally, the starting Half Back for Urza's Ragers Laaaaaaaarry Joooooooohnson. You know you love the sound of it. And not to mention poor little Kolby Smith who would get lonesome without big brother Larry.

:stirspot:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Note to teams who need a RB (and I know you're out there): you gonna let McGahee slip by? He's a prime RB that can actually be peeled away from his current team (and not at the $3000 price tag that others carry). Once he goes, I hope you're happy with an over-priced Rudi Johnson or a loser Thomas Jones (watch the Jets take McFadden and render him moot), because that's all that will remain, when you count in that Larry Johnson and Jamal Lewis are going to be matched.

I'm sitting here keeping RBs alive and I don't even really NEED one, I just want one. I'm surprised that teams with the need are sitting on the sidelines.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I don't need another RB but you got your wish as I just bumped McGahee. Hopefully he falls to me and if everyone thinks like you do about Rudi, I'll have some nice bargaining power with RBs come rookie draft and UFA

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Nicely done. You were the last team I expected to bid!

I just bumped LJ. So now the RB dominos can start falling once Joel makes his Parker decision. C'mon Joel, there's no strategic reason to wait anymore, let's gitrdone!

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

slaps $50 down on the counter...

I'M OUT

best of luck to ya Jason... but you're screwed if Joel declines Willie

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

No prob. I highly doubt I'll end up with Parker and Johnson. And if I do, I've got that contingency covered, too.

Nicely used Kramer reference :)

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I was just waiting for you to bid on Johnson. So I wasn't neccessarily the one holding things up.

On a side note - 72 hours match decline is a long time.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

You want me to trade you Johnson's backup???

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Nah, I think it's about right.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

:lmao:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I think so too, but being on here everyday, it seems like forever since the bidding was closed on Parker.

McGahee/Johnson
 

Ragers - I'm not going to make this easy on you. You can decide now or in a couple of days about Johnson, but I'm not moving on McGahee until you make that decision.

Re: McGahee/Johnson
 

I don't think landing or not landing McGahee will have anything to do with the decision to match or decline LJ.

There are other options out there at the skill positions.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I'm not complaining because I had a major part to do with it, but Frenzy RFA this year is like watching paint peel!

:throwpc:


We need to get a YAWN smiles

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

FYI, stealing Burt's idea from SACD, I changed all the icons on closed RFAs to thumbs up or thumbs down, based on match or decline. I think it makes the whole forum easier to read. It should be easier to see active RFAs now, as they are the only ones with NFL team icons next to them.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

:agree: I like Burt's system. I also think we should list the points in the RFA tracking thread for each decline like SACD is now doing.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I also have all points listed in the Unofficial 2008 RFA thread http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12112

And in the new thread

http://www.predsff.com/forums/showth...3569#post63569

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Can't believe some of the guys that haven't been put up for bid yet, with only 10 days left in the RFA period.

Someone needs to get these guys out there to sell for market value.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

You're one of the guys that has the cash to throw those guys out there. Git er done.

:stirspot:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I do?

After signins Wayne and with Boldin at 1753 and high bid on Wes Welker at 1750... I don't think I have any room left.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

With 2400 left as of right now, you aren't letting Boldin go. So add 500 to his salary so that's 1900 left. I don't believe there is any chance Opihi is letting Welker go so I think that Avengers was just speculating that you'll have money. BUT I also think that with 390 some dollars left, Avengers forgot about the FA market and that he's going to need DEF and K (two throughout the year with byes) and another TE. That's if Ragers doesn't match Cooley and put Avengers over again. (Ace in the hole ... D Driver - Please bid asks Avengers)

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I guess we'll have to wait until Welker sells then.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I haven't forgotten about FA or that I need a K and a D. A long time left before I need to worry about that - just trying to lock up the talent that I want for now. I called you out before I saw your Welker bid, Insects - well done. Now all the rest of you sitting on 2, 3, or 4 k, you know who you are, get on the bidding train.

:bling:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

The chess match starts. Insects... Boldin is on the 72-hour clock. I won't be making a decision on Welker until your match/decline decision on Boldin is made.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

My mod powers have been taken away!! Can someoen put the Seahawks Icon next to Matt Hasslebeck. It's really annoying me.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Just to make sure everyone's on the same page, since we have a flurry of active players, my understanding is that each open player will go to the highest bidder as of 11:59 EDT tomorrow night. 72 hour match/decline clocks run as normal.

From http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6394:

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

ONLY RFA'S LEFT

RB’s<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p>

Rudi Johnson (Swords) (1st Round/2400)<o:p></o:p>

WR’s<o:p></o:p>

Plaxico Burress (Ragers) (1st Round/1800)

<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Chad</st1:country-region></st1:place> Johnson (Swords) (1st Round/1800)<o:p></o:p>

K’s<o:p></o:p>

Josh Brown (Freedom) (4th round/150)<o:p></o:p>

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I thought we eliminated ebay style end?

I could have sworn we did.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

I know we elimnated Ebay style for the transition from off-season free agency to in season free agency, but I don't think we ever officially addressed the end of the RFA period. Per the thread Jason quoted, I don't think it's ever come up before, and unless someone finds a more recent thread/vote, that thread makes it clear that bidding will end at the deadline.

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

We've never had that problem before. Looks like this year might be the first! I think the RFA period should not be a problem with "eBay-style" bidding. It shouldn't be a problem to put up a decent offer that you think the 'owning team' might have a problem matching.

Now, in UFA periods, I see how this could get dicey... but I don't see a problem with it in the RFA time. Just my two cents...

Re: 2008 RFA Commentary
 

Pretty sure we eliminated the ebay stle for the UFA period and setup up a roll over transition from off-season to in-season.

The RFA is a different animal, thus the Rules committee ruling that the hard end on the 30th was OK.