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Liquid Swords April 4th, 2016 02:29 PM

Franchise Calculations
 
Burt posted some responses to this year's franchised players, but I don't get the same calculations. According to the rules, only those players on contract at the end of the season count toward the franchise values for the next season. See post - http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9008. Did I maybe miss a change to the original rule?

Here are the calculations I get for each franchised position this year:

Tight Ends
<table><tr><td>Witten</td><td>1600</td></tr><tr><td>Olsen</td><td>1500</td></tr><tr><td>Davis</td><td>1491</td></tr><tr><td>Gates</td><td>1250</td></tr><tr><td>Gronkowski</td><td>866</td></tr><tr><td>Chandler</td><td>775</td></tr><tr><td>Fleener</td><td>700</td></tr><tr><td>Thomas</td><td>562</td></tr><tr><td>Clay</td><td>501</td></tr><tr><td>Ertz</td><td>457</td></tr><tr><td>Average</td><td>970</td></tr></table>

Defensive Linemen
<table><tr><td>Wake</td><td>953</td></tr><tr><td>Watt</td><td>900</td></tr><tr><td>Allen</td><td>770</td></tr><tr><td>Campbell</td><td>725</td></tr><tr><td>Dunlap</td><td>708</td></tr><tr><td>Hughes</td><td>680</td></tr><tr><td>Griffen</td><td>650</td></tr><tr><td>Pierre-Paul</td><td>601</td></tr><tr><td>Quinn</td><td>573</td></tr><tr><td>Cameron</td><td>499</td></tr><tr><td>Average</td><td>706</td></tr></table>

Linebackers
<table><tr><td>Kuechly</td><td>1134</td></tr><tr><td>Laurinaitis</td><td>1045</td></tr><tr><td>Levy</td><td>950</td></tr><tr><td>Dansby</td><td>825</td></tr><tr><td>Posluszny</td><td>700</td></tr><tr><td>Freeman</td><td>682</td></tr><tr><td>David</td><td>680</td></tr><tr><td>Houston</td><td>655</td></tr><tr><td>Matthews</td><td>629</td></tr><tr><td>Timmons</td><td>612</td></tr><tr><td>Average</td><td>791</td></tr></table>

Defensive Backs
<table><tr><td>Smith</td><td>536</td></tr><tr><td>Burnett</td><td>506</td></tr><tr><td>Church</td><td>506</td></tr><tr><td>Ward</td><td>505</td></tr><tr><td>Weddle</td><td>495</td></tr><tr><td>McDonald</td><td>451</td></tr><tr><td>Norman</td><td>420</td></tr><tr><td>Bucannon</td><td>410</td></tr><tr><td>Bethea</td><td>395</td></tr><tr><td>Thomas</td><td>385</td></tr><tr><td>Average</td><td>461</td></tr></table>

Burt the Butcher April 4th, 2016 02:50 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
ok, I just included the top 10 salaries with any player not showing a zero or negative years number. I did not check to see if they were still under contract.

So your numbers are probably accurate and I will use those.

Liquid Swords April 4th, 2016 03:34 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
Cool. Just making sure I didn't overlook a rule update from the original.

I'm wondering if we should revisit the Franchise rules for next season. Franchising players should be difficult and costly IMO. One thought is to reduce the number of players to calculate from 10 to 5. Another thought is to prevent a team from franchising the same player in back-to-back years.

Burt the Butcher April 4th, 2016 03:53 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
Agreed. We should look into that. JJ watt is going on maybe 4 straight years of Franchising...

Miners April 4th, 2016 04:17 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
When I redid Gronk's numbers today I come up with what the "S"-Words did. I must have been using guys that were not under contract back 2015. My first time franchising a player.

Preds April 4th, 2016 04:38 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid Swords (Post 130453)
Cool. Just making sure I didn't overlook a rule update from the original.

I'm wondering if we should revisit the Franchise rules for next season. Franchising players should be difficult and costly IMO. One thought is to reduce the number of players to calculate from 10 to 5. Another thought is to prevent a team from franchising the same player in back-to-back years.

You're using top 10 to calculate Franchise tenders? I'm haven't been in SACD since the inaugral couple seasons, but I don't recall it being that deep to calculate Franchise values. Maybe it was, but looking at your numbers I would suggest no more than top 3 be used to calculate franchise tenders. Franchising a player should be paying top dollar.

Just my unsolicited 2 cents!

Burt the Butcher April 25th, 2016 03:29 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds (Post 130456)
You're using top 10 to calculate Franchise tenders? I'm haven't been in SACD since the inaugral couple seasons, but I don't recall it being that deep to calculate Franchise values. Maybe it was, but looking at your numbers I would suggest no more than top 3 be used to calculate franchise tenders. Franchising a player should be paying top dollar.

Just my unsolicited 2 cents!

Bring it up in vote next year

Liquid Swords April 14th, 2017 01:52 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
After looking at Franchise values for 2017, I'd like to bring this up to a vote for this season to reduce it from calculating the top 10 to the top 5 or top 3.

I'd also like to address multiple year franchise designations to keep it to only one year. Another idea would be to add 30% to previous year's salary (more than typical salary cap increase of 20%) and take the higher of the two (30% salary increase or franchise average).

Anyone else have an opinions or thoughts on this?

Burt the Butcher April 14th, 2017 05:38 PM

Re: Franchise Calculations
 
Agreed..thinking it should be closer to a 1st or 2nd RFA tender for that position. I think top 4 would do it (and compromise between 3 and 5), plus make it a hell of a lot easier to calculate. And agree, it should be only those who were still on a teams roster and under contract to be considered.

Go ahead and put it to a vote Pat


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