Sample IDP Scoring (See Links in Post #30 to see sample of Proposed Scoring Systems)

Liquid Swords · April 14th, 2005, 05:03 PM

http://football.myfantasyleague.com/...s?L=25465&O=37

The above link will take you to the scoring for the IDP league I played in last season. When looking at DBs, select CB+S and when looking at DLs, select DT+DE. LBs are just LBs.

Scoring for above league:

Punt/Kickoff Return TDs: 6pts
Fumble Recovery/Interception Return TDs: 6pts
Blocked FG/Punt Return TDs: 6pts
Fumble Recoveries: 4pts
Interceptions Caught: 4pts
Blocked FG/Punt: 4pts
Tackles: 1pt
Assists: 0.5pt
QB Sack: 4pts
Safeties: 6pts

Nittany Dodgers · April 14th, 2005, 05:08 PM

So, scoring wise, it seems the best player at each D position scores about as much as the better TEs (based on Frenzy scoring). Would you say that is accurate?

Liquid Swords · April 14th, 2005, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

So, scoring wise, it seems the best player at each D position scores about as much as the better TEs (based on Frenzy scoring). Would you say that is accurate?

That'd probably be a good estimate.

Nittany Dodgers · April 14th, 2005, 05:13 PM

So if I'm reading the charts right, as far as LBs, we are going to have the best averaging around 10 points, and bums on the bench averaging in the 3 range, and a straight line decline down in scoring. I can live with that.

Preds · April 14th, 2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

So, scoring wise, it seems the best player at each D position scores about as much as the better TEs (based on Frenzy scoring). Would you say that is accurate?

Those scoring numbers seem lower than the ones I've experienced in other IDP systems which if I recall had less generous scoring. Weird.

randilover · April 14th, 2005, 05:15 PM

I like it. What about the blocked passes? That came up in the other thread.

Liquid Swords · April 14th, 2005, 05:16 PM

you can increase the scoring quite a bit by bumping up tackles to 2 pts and assists to 1 point.....that was the original scoring but two years ago it was bumped down to 1/.5

Preds · April 14th, 2005, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

you can increase the scoring quite a bit by bumping up tackles to 2 pts and assists to 1 point.....that was the original scoring but two years ago it was bumped down to 1/.5

That's the difference, I think my other leagues did go 2/1 for tackles and assists.

It makes a huge difference (probably a good one) since your solid tacklers really rise to the top.

Liquid Swords · April 14th, 2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

That's the difference, I think my other leagues did go 2/1 for tackles and assists.

It makes a huge difference (probably a good one) since your solid tacklers really rise to the top.

definitely...in the 1st season Ray Lewis was putting up Priest Holmes numbers

Edit: actually, I think it was Urlacher that put up the big numbers....i think Ray was out quite a bit that year.

keepers · April 14th, 2005, 05:26 PM

My thoughts are to raise tackle pts as these are more predictable and a better indication of the quality of the player and lower the pts for fumble recoveries and INTs slightly as these are wildly unpredictable. Something like:

Fumble Recovery/Interception Return TDs: 6pts
Blocked FG/Punt Return TDs: 6pts
Fumble Recoveries: 3pts
Interceptions Caught: 3pts
Blocked FG/Punt: 4pts
Tackles: 1.5pts
Assists: .5 pt
QB Sack: 2pts per .5 sacks ... often get 1/2 a sack
Safeties: 6pts
Forced Fumbles: 3pts ... added this in
Deflected passes: 1pt ... added this in

Preds · April 14th, 2005, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keepers

My thoughts are to raise tackle pts as these are more predictable and a better indication of the quality of the player and lower the pts for fumble recoveries and INTs slightly as these are wildly unpredictable. Something like:

Fumble Recovery/Interception Return TDs: 6pts
Blocked FG/Punt Return TDs: 6pts
Fumble Recoveries: 3pts
Interceptions Caught: 3pts
Blocked FG/Punt: 4pts
Tackles: 1.5pts
Assists: .5 pt
QB Sack: 2pts per .5 sacks ... often get 1/2 a sack
Safeties: 6pts
Forced Fumbles: 3pts ... added this in
Deflected passes: 1pt ... added this in

I like it., though maybe only 1 or 2 points for the Forced Fumbles, better yet, bring the Fumble Recovery Points down to 2 and give 2 for the force for a totle of 4.

Burt the Butcher · April 14th, 2005, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keepers

My thoughts are to raise tackle pts as these are more predictable and a better indication of the quality of the player and lower the pts for fumble recoveries and INTs slightly as these are wildly unpredictable. Something like:

Fumble Recovery/Interception Return TDs: 6pts
Blocked FG/Punt Return TDs: 6pts
Fumble Recoveries: 3pts
Interceptions Caught: 3pts
Blocked FG/Punt: 4pts
Tackles: 1.5pts
Assists: .5 pt
QB Sack: 2pts per .5 sacks ... often get 1/2 a sack
Safeties: 6pts
Forced Fumbles: 3pts ... added this in
Deflected passes: 1pt ... added this in

Raise deflected passes to 2 points, and I'd go for this system.

Mutts · April 14th, 2005, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

I like it., though maybe only 1 or 2 points for the Forced Fumbles, better yet, bring the Fumble Recovery Points down to 2 and give 2 for the force for a totle of 4.

If our software will track it, I think 2/2 for fumbles is a good idea.

keepers · April 14th, 2005, 05:48 PM

I agree 2/2 for fumbles is good.

Raising deflected pass pts may also be a good idea as this will get DTs a little more in line with LBs and DBs which look to be higher scoring positions at the moment.

Preds · April 14th, 2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keepers

I agree 2/2 for fumbles is good.

Raising deflected pass pts may also be a good idea as this will get DTs a little more in line with LBs and DBs which look to be higher scoring positions at the moment.

I'm cool with deflected passes getting 2 pts.

Nittany Dodgers · April 14th, 2005, 05:53 PM

All of these ideas sound good to me.

Valencia · April 14th, 2005, 07:50 PM

What they said... :thumbsup
I like all the improvements

April 14th, 2005, 08:26 PM

sounds pretty good.

would anyone *cough*preds*cough* be able to run this through FLM and post what the results of the changes would be?

The Immortal Ramirez · April 15th, 2005, 08:39 AM

do you really want defected passes to be more important than tackles and equal to sacks? Besides, DL are not the only ones getting them. A lot of DBs get defects, so that will increase their scores. Main points for DL are sacks from my experience.

I like adding the deflected, just don't want to score it too high. We can try 2 points, then re-evaluate next year.

I also like having 2/2 for forced fumbles and fumble recoveries.

Preds · April 15th, 2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle

sounds pretty good.

would anyone *cough*preds*cough* be able to run this through FLM and post what the results of the changes would be?

Maybe I will be able to sometime this weekend... we'll see.

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April 14th, 2005, 05:03 PM	#1
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Sample IDP Scoring (See Links in Post #30 to see sample of Proposed Scoring Systems) http://football.myfantasyleague.com/...s?L=25465&O=37 The above link will take you to the scoring for the IDP league I played in last season. When looking at DBs, select CB+S and when looking at DLs, select DT+DE. LBs are just LBs. Scoring for above league: Punt/Kickoff Return TDs: 6pts Fumble Recovery/Interception Return TDs: 6pts Blocked FG/Punt Return TDs: 6pts Fumble Recoveries: 4pts Interceptions Caught: 4pts Blocked FG/Punt: 4pts Tackles: 1pt Assists: 0.5pt QB Sack: 4pts Safeties: 6pts __________________ 5 time Frenzy Champion - 2024, 2021, 2019, 2018, 2016 - Liquid Swords 5 time SAC'D Champion - 2024, co-2022, 2021, 2019, 2010 - Disciples of the 36 Chambers Last edited by Preds; April 17th, 2005 at 09:54 PM.

April 14th, 2005, 05:08 PM	#2
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Re: Sample IDP Scoring So, scoring wise, it seems the best player at each D position scores about as much as the better TEs (based on Frenzy scoring). Would you say that is accurate?

April 14th, 2005, 05:13 PM	#4
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Re: Sample IDP Scoring So if I'm reading the charts right, as far as LBs, we are going to have the best averaging around 10 points, and bums on the bench averaging in the 3 range, and a straight line decline down in scoring. I can live with that.

April 14th, 2005, 05:15 PM	#6
randilover SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Outside Philadelphia Posts: 1,183	Re: Sample IDP Scoring I like it. What about the blocked passes? That came up in the other thread.

April 14th, 2005, 05:16 PM	#7
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: Sample IDP Scoring you can increase the scoring quite a bit by bumping up tackles to 2 pts and assists to 1 point.....that was the original scoring but two years ago it was bumped down to 1/.5 __________________ 5 time Frenzy Champion - 2024, 2021, 2019, 2018, 2016 - Liquid Swords 5 time SAC'D Champion - 2024, co-2022, 2021, 2019, 2010 - Disciples of the 36 Chambers

April 14th, 2005, 05:26 PM	#10
keepers SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 465	Re: Sample IDP Scoring My thoughts are to raise tackle pts as these are more predictable and a better indication of the quality of the player and lower the pts for fumble recoveries and INTs slightly as these are wildly unpredictable. Something like: Fumble Recovery/Interception Return TDs: 6pts Blocked FG/Punt Return TDs: 6pts Fumble Recoveries: 3pts Interceptions Caught: 3pts Blocked FG/Punt: 4pts Tackles: 1.5pts Assists: .5 pt QB Sack: 2pts per .5 sacks ... often get 1/2 a sack Safeties: 6pts Forced Fumbles: 3pts ... added this in Deflected passes: 1pt ... added this in

April 14th, 2005, 05:48 PM	#14
keepers SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 465	Re: Sample IDP Scoring I agree 2/2 for fumbles is good. Raising deflected pass pts may also be a good idea as this will get DTs a little more in line with LBs and DBs which look to be higher scoring positions at the moment.

April 14th, 2005, 05:53 PM	#16
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Re: Sample IDP Scoring All of these ideas sound good to me.

April 14th, 2005, 07:50 PM	#17
Valencia NF-FFL, CDL, & SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lancaster, California Posts: 1,035	Re: Sample IDP Scoring What they said... :thumbsup I like all the improvements

April 14th, 2005, 08:26 PM	#18
Skippy the One Eyed Beagle Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Sample IDP Scoring sounds pretty good. would anyone coughpredscough be able to run this through FLM and post what the results of the changes would be?

April 15th, 2005, 08:39 AM	#19
The Immortal Ramirez PredsFF.com Portal News Reporters Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,210	Re: Sample IDP Scoring do you really want defected passes to be more important than tackles and equal to sacks? Besides, DL are not the only ones getting them. A lot of DBs get defects, so that will increase their scores. Main points for DL are sacks from my experience. I like adding the deflected, just don't want to score it too high. We can try 2 points, then re-evaluate next year. I also like having 2/2 for forced fumbles and fumble recoveries.

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