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Old April 13th, 2022, 11:25 AM   #1
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Default Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

This proposal is to move the declaration due date for RFA's to 3 days AFTER the NFL Draft, with the start of RFA bidding 4 days later (7 days after the NFL Draft). RFA bidding will still end May 31st each year.

This move allows teams to make adjustments to their RFA declarations after the impact of the NFL draft is known.
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Old April 13th, 2022, 01:56 PM   #2
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft

The only reason I'd be against this is because the NFL requires teams to declare their franchise tags well before the draft (for whatever reason) and it has a significant impact on a team's draft. I see that happening in SACD as well, so it does make things that much more realistic for us.
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Old April 13th, 2022, 06:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft

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The only reason I'd be against this is because the NFL requires teams to declare their franchise tags well before the draft (for whatever reason) and it has a significant impact on a team's draft. I see that happening in SACD as well, so it does make things that much more realistic for us.
The difference is that NFL teams are the ones drafting the players that could impact their own RFA's and as such it's highly unlikely they'd sign a RFA to a big ticket contract and then draft a rookie to compete, on the flip side they could draft an impact player which might impact other players around them (like a stud WR for a QB), or a stud tackle that could open things up for an Edge rusher, etc.

Basically, in Frenzy and SACD we have no control over an NFL team potentially drafting players that can impact our RFAs, whereas in the NFL, they generally draft around their RFA and UFA moves, not against them.
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Old April 15th, 2022, 10:17 AM   #4
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft

I guess I don't see the difference for us. NFL teams either tag a guy or not and then draft accordingly. So do we. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't believe NFL teams decide not to tag a guy based on the assumption that they are sure they can replace him through the draft. There are simply too many variables out of their control. Yes they take into account if the upcoming draft is rich in talent at the position they want, but I think tag decisions are based much more on fit and contract than they are on replaceability of the player in the draft.
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Old April 15th, 2022, 10:46 AM   #5
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft

Let me pout this another way, NFL teams generally teams don't tag a guy, agree to a big contract, and then draft a player to compete at the same position and thus hurt their RFA, whereas in SACD/Frenzy, we may be unaware that our RFA (who is likely under contract with their NFL team) may be on the outs with their team unbeknownst to us, and heck possibly even the player. So when an NFL team drafts that stud LB, DB or Edge out of the blue when many didn't see it coming (which happens often), it can greatly devalue a player. Conversely, when an NFL team DOESN'T draft a player at an apparent position of need (say to replace an aging or struggling RB, WR, LB, etc.), the player we may be tagging can increase in value as they look to have job security for another year.

On the flip side, who SACD/Frenzy teams draft has zero impact on an actual player's value. Drafting that stud RB may make one of your SACD/Frenzy RB's less valuable to you, but doesn't actually impact the players value in the NFL, or necessarily in SACD/Frenzy.
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Old April 15th, 2022, 12:09 PM   #6
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft

OK, so this passes.

The NFL Draft is from April 28th through April 30th, so RFA declarations are due this year on May 3rd, and RFA bidding will open in May 7th and end on May 31st.

I'll adjust the timelines post to reflect
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Old April 15th, 2022, 12:12 PM   #7
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

So looking at timelines, does it make sense to move the Soft cap end and Hard cap begin, TS Rollover and Franchise tags due, to be same date as RFA declarations coming due, like it was before this change?
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Old April 15th, 2022, 12:20 PM   #8
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

Definitely need to move the contract rollovers to be same date, so May 3rd at 11:59pm EST...so will just adjust the others to match
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Old April 15th, 2022, 04:44 PM   #9
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

Works for and I'm way behind on things. Should be able to start catching up this weekend.
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

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Definitely need to move the contract rollovers to be same date, so May 3rd at 11:59pm EST...so will just adjust the others to match
Makes sense. Frenzy should follow suit.

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Old April 18th, 2022, 01:31 PM   #11
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

lol... yes, I think this is wise.
and I think the same has passed in frenzy, too, right?
we should adjust the calendar there as well.
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

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lol... yes, I think this is wise.
and I think the same has passed in frenzy, too, right?
we should adjust the calendar there as well.
yes this proposal has passed in both leagues
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Old April 15th, 2023, 05:50 PM   #13
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

I am updating the SACd rules - moving to Word and adding the past few years rule changes.
The Draft usually occurs Thurs-Sat, so to make this easier to document and follow I am updating this rule as to read:

Tuesday following the NFL Draft at 11:59pm - RFA Declarations are due
April 30rd at 11:59pm - Soft Cap Period Ends
May 1st at 12:00am - Hard Cap Period Begins
Saturday following the NFL Draft at 12:00am - RFA Bidding Opens

If there are any concerns on the wording, let me know.
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

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I am updating the SACd rules - moving to Word and adding the past few years rule changes.
The Draft usually occurs Thurs-Sat, so to make this easier to document and follow I am updating this rule as to read:

Tuesday following the NFL Draft at 11:59pm - RFA Declarations are due
April 30rd at 11:59pm - Soft Cap Period Ends
May 1st at 12:00am - Hard Cap Period Begins
Saturday following the NFL Draft at 12:00am - RFA Bidding Opens

If there are any concerns on the wording, let me know.
Looks good David. Appreciate you taking this on.
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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

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Default Re: Proposal - Move RFA Declarations due date to 3 days after NFL Draft **Passes 10-1**

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Definitely need to move the contract rollovers to be same date, so May 3rd at 11:59pm EST...so will just adjust the others to match
Wanted to be sure that needs to be implemented in the rules doc, as well.

Reading this statement and looking at last season's timeline thread, it looks like the Soft Cap end and Hard Cap start need to move to match the RFD Start Date.

Burt, can you confirm...

Tuesday following the NFL Draft at 11:59pm - RFA Declarations are due
Friday following the NFL Draft at 11:59pm - Soft Cap Period Ends
Saturday following the NFL Draft at 12:00am - Hard Cap Period Begins

Saturday following the NFL Draft at 12:00am - RFA Bidding Opens
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