January 18th, 2022, 10:06 AM | #1 |
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Failing to submit lineup
We had a couple times this season where the owner failed to submit a lineup. I think the current penalty of loss of points and CB's is not incentive enough to make sure to submit a lineup, especially when a team is out of playoff contention towards end of season.
I would suggest loss of draft pick as a penalty that is more incentive to remain active. Also, while it creates more work for me, I would also suggest the Commish has authority to adjust said teams lineup, if not submitted for the week by Saturday, 6pm EST, using MFL's projected points as a guide...simply set lineup based on highest projected points. The owner can still adjust before game time this way, and also allows for valid lineup. Thoughts?
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January 18th, 2022, 01:46 PM | #2 | |
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This would be good for Frenzy to adopt as well.
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January 18th, 2022, 03:03 PM | #3 | |
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January 18th, 2022, 10:38 PM | #4 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
Seems fair.
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January 19th, 2022, 03:57 AM | #5 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
yep, i'm good with it.
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January 19th, 2022, 11:33 AM | #6 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
Too harsh for 1st offense.
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January 19th, 2022, 11:56 AM | #7 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
How about sliding penalty schedule based on when in the year it happens?
Games 1-8 - 5th pick for 1st offense, 3rd pick for 2nd offense, 1st for 3rd offense Games 9-14 - 3rd for 1st offense, 2nd for 2nd offense, 1st for 3rd offense I mean if we've gotten to 3rd offense, maybe time to find another hobby? If someone is having a rough week and cannot get to their laptop to set their lineup, they can always text me to set it for them. I believe Mike and Dale also have Commish privs here, and am sure they would be willing to help someone out in a pinch.
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January 20th, 2022, 12:44 PM | #8 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
Maybe have a "teams have 48 hours after failing to submit their FIRST offense to communicate with the commish as to WHY they were unable to post a lineup, or even communicate with the commish... at which time the commish can determine if a one-time-only waiver can be granted."
(I know... WAY TOO WORDY... but it allows for extenuating circumstances in case something crazy happened for that owner that week.) NOTE: This is only for the first offense. |
January 20th, 2022, 01:06 PM | #9 | |
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The main thing is to allow commish to adjust the teams lineup to at least put up a competitive game, especially towards the end of the season, when pick slotting is coming into play.
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January 20th, 2022, 01:47 PM | #10 |
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Agreed
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January 20th, 2022, 04:29 PM | #11 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
I like no penalty for first offense. Heavier 2nd offense - loss of 1st/2nd round draft pick. Third offense in a season is strike 3 to me and should call for removal of owner.
As far as commish setting lineup, the Saturday, 6pm EST deadline sounds good. I'd recommend keeping same lineup from previous week and only replace bye week and Questionable/Doubtful/Out players. Even if owner agrees with lineup, he would need to submit it prior to 1st set of games on Sunday to avoid an offense for not submitting a lineup. If owner is removed, begin search for new owner to take over. Each week we wait to find new owner, we could set up a thread for everyone except opponent to post the lineup they would submit. Commish can then use that determine lineup for week. Just throwing a few more ideas out there. |
January 20th, 2022, 09:13 PM | #12 | |
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January 20th, 2022, 09:27 PM | #13 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
I'd like to see a way to encourage teams to continue trying to improve their roster, even when they're out of it. Especially when teams trade stars away, but don't make any effort to remain as competitive as possible by utilizing UFA, waivers etc.
I had a terrible start in Frenzy in 2021 after suffering major injuries and several losses. Although I conducted a firesale, and traded away half my team, I never gave up trying to win each week and remained active in picking up UFA's, making trades, etc. so my Preds would be as competitive as possible, despite the injury and trade depleted lineup. In the end I won some unexpected games, and my draft position suffered, but some of those late season UFA moves became beneficial to me in my run to the # 1 seed and the Frenzy Bowl this past season (until Pat did his Championship thing and knocked us out)! Despite tearing my team down with trades, I rebuildt on the fly and made teams earn their W's against my Preds. I also found some UFA, waiver and draft talent that unexpectedly had value that carried into the 2021 season. How do we encourage teams to remain active and not sitting on stale, injury depleted rosters? I've noticed this has been a real issue by several teams over the years, and probably because they don't want to incur potential salary cap penalties and/or hurt their draft positioning by making moves. We should heavily discourage this type of inactivity, I just don't know how to do so.
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January 20th, 2022, 09:32 PM | #14 |
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Re: Failing to submit lineup
I feel like the loss of a 1st/2nd for the second offense is a bit extreme, but I can live with it if the other owners want it. I just know that right now for me personally, every time I think this is about as bad as it can get, Fate says, "Hold my beer." (and that's with some good things mixed in, but you get the drift) I would hope that the owner facing a run of crappy luck in life will be able to deal with things or hand the team off after the first warning, but sometimes life interferes with our fun.
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