May 7th, 2019, 09:38 PM | #1 |
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Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
RULE 7E:
Players CANNOT be traded without their contract years 1st being assigned by the original team. All players must have designated years assigned by their salaries prior to being traded. This means any rookies and/or UFA players during the off season cannot go to a new team without specific contract years being named. No trades involving off-season RFA players can be officially posted until the mid-August declaration deadline. If the winning owner assigns years - the player is available to trade. The player is on the active roster and held accountable to cap and year restrictions, so why force to wait until Aug to be tradeable??? I don't get it. Can someone explain the rationale for inserting this into the rules in this manner? Especially when no such specific date is given for UFAs or Rookies. I am having trouble with the mechanics of this because there is value to allowing years be assigned (any time BEFORE deadline is permissible) and using this asset how the owner deems best for his team - i.e. tradeable....
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May 7th, 2019, 09:49 PM | #2 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
I wondered about that too...
Maybe we should update it to the "7E Diggs" rule lol |
May 7th, 2019, 09:54 PM | #3 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
I mean...I get why...it stops owners from doing ANYTHING with RFA acquisitions for an extended period...
I can think of many reasons why an owner should be allowed to maneuver his legally owned players/roster in the fashion he deems, but I can think of no logical answers that benefit the team, owner, or league to prevent the actions suggested. It appears at some point someone thought this was a good idea and I am curious still about the nexus of this portion of the rule. I truly hope someone does not say that owners can't trade legally rostered players for draft picks (we assuredly can) and this rule stops that from happening because the acquired RFA is not legally rostered until Aug. I just would like someone to explain something since I can assign years any time before deadline.
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May 7th, 2019, 09:57 PM | #4 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
Are we In-Season and all my ramblings are irrelevant??? That would be the best answer...
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May 7th, 2019, 09:58 PM | #5 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
It's to prevent teams from sign and trade deals that could potentially artificially decrease the market for a player.
Somebody got too creative with the edges of the rules many years ago, thus we agreed to lock RFA's until the end of summer to make teams commit to players they bid on, and not make deals to flip players with say the team they're in bidding battle with, in exchange for compensation. That said, I mentioned to Jim today, maybe we should discuss reducing the limitations a tad, and perhaps allow teams to trade RFA's to any team that wasn't involved in bidding for said player. Something to contemplate and vote on for 2020. #yesI'mguiltyforbeingcreativemanyyearsago!
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May 7th, 2019, 11:53 PM | #6 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
Hmmm...not sure I agree totally with your premise of undervaluing a particular player...that would mean the whole league or at least the original owner may be involved in the conspiracy. There is always the chance a few rogue owners jump in on the bidding making your scenario risky...I could see it on mid-ling talent, but not top tier guys...
Any way...the proposal is in and posted...I'm letting it run its course unless a higher up shuts it down...OR enough votes make it a done deal one way or another... My 1st legit crack at changing a rule on my own...you know, creating and publishing...thanks for the input!!! p.s. I'm over with the waiting until next year thingy...we had like 10 things last year we said that about and not 1 got created...get em on the official books - pass or fail - and we can refer back when questions are asked we can say it was voted on instead of waiting...
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May 8th, 2019, 04:04 AM | #7 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
Instead of limiting the allowable bidding partners, maybe there can be a cap hit penalty if a player is involved in a trade within xx number of days following the RFA acquisition.
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May 8th, 2019, 09:42 AM | #8 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
I do not see the point in restricting other bidders. I can agree with some kind of waiting period before trading though. Maybe shorten it up, and wait until at least either RFA period is completed, or even wait until after Rookie Draft is completed, since rookie compensation is part of RFA process.
But I do agree, having to wait until August is a bit extreme
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May 8th, 2019, 11:28 AM | #9 |
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Re: Why the restriction on RFAs in Rule 7e???
The problem was actually collusion.
We can address this for next season, because I think we're past that period of our league. It's time. |
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