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Old October 3rd, 2017, 12:37 PM   #1
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You all know how much I despise the doubleheaders. Personally I want them eliminated permanently.

With the return of the doubleheaders this week lets look at the results with some advanced stats:

Teams that won 2
Bees 143.75 (1st in points for the week) beat 2nd and 3rd place teams
Freedom 116.55 (4th in points for the week) beat 9th and 11th place teams
Dogs 110.25 (5th in points for the week) beat 9th and 11th place teams
Swords 107.40 (6th in points for the week) beat 7th and 12th place teams

Teams that Split
Preds 125.80 (2nd in points for the week) lost to 1st place team, beat 10th place team
Roosters 120.05 (3rd in points for the week) lost to 1st place team, beat 10th place team
Chickens 106.15 (7th in points for the week) lost to 6th place team, beat 8th place team
Burners 105.20 (8th in points for the week) lost to 7th place team, beat 12th place team

Teams that Lost 2
Opihi 99.40 (9th in points for the week) lost to 4th and 5th place teams
Cards 98.25 (10th in points for the week) lost to 2nd and 3rd place teams
SBDC 89.95 (11th in points for the week) lost to 4th and 5th place teams
Scorpions 72.95 (12th in points for the week) lost to 6th and 8th place teams

I want to hear the arguments for and against, and any alternatives we should consider to eliminate the GD things..
Now lets DISCUSS
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 01:06 PM   #2
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Bottom feeders, unite!
The OPIHI are off to their WORST START in Frenzy franchise history. Ugh.
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 01:20 PM   #3
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Bottom feeders, unite!
The OPIHI are off to their WORST START in Frenzy franchise history. Ugh.
On the flip side of things, the Preds would be 5-0 if not for 2 losses to the 1st place team for the week while we were 2nd. One of those losses by under a point!
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 01:53 PM   #4
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No suggestions...just sucks if you run bad one week. It could ruin the season.
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 02:44 PM   #5
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Those statistics are just "luck of the draw". Just like last year when I finished 1st in all play , 2nd in scoring, 1st in points against, had a 7-7 record and lost my playoff game to points leader, while my playoff points were 2nd highest in playoffs. Kind of like the situation the Predators are going through this year. Just luck of the draw.

I don't like week 17 championship play but as someone so eloquently put it in last years discussion it won't effect me

Not playing 1 team would kinda/sorta/ maybe be like NFL team division schedules where they draw some games based on how they finished the previous season.
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Those statistics are just "luck of the draw". Just like last year when I finished 1st in all play , 2nd in scoring, 1st in points against, had a 7-7 record and lost my playoff game to points leader, while my playoff points were 2nd highest in playoffs. Kind of like the situation the Predators are going through this year. Just luck of the draw.

I don't like week 17 championship play but as someone so eloquently put it in last years discussion it won't effect me

Not playing 1 team would kinda/sorta/ maybe be like NFL team division schedules where they draw some games based on how they finished the previous season.
To me this is the compromise between the week 17 championship (I have no issue with it) and the double headers which just suck IMHO.
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I'm all for compromise.

Some despise double-headers as much as I despise week 17 championships.
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I'm all for compromise.

Some despise double-headers as much as I despise week 17 championships.
Oddly both the double headers this year, and last years week 17 championship worked quite well for you!

How fortunate to go 2-0 on the DH week despite being 6th in scoring.

Heck even your All-Play is rivaling the miracles pulled off by Burt last year. 12-32 All-Play for the Swords YTD (tied for 2nd worst in the Frenzy), yet a 4-1 record. He had Leveon Bell come off suspension to solidify the stretch run, who will the Swords have? Waiting for more trades to drop. !
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Oddly both the double headers this year, and last years week 17 championship worked quite well for you!

How fortunate to go 2-0 on the DH week despite being 6th in scoring.

Heck even your All-Play is rivaling the miracles pulled off by Burt last year. 12-32 All-Play for the Swords YTD (tied for 2nd worst in the Frenzy), yet a 4-1 record. He had Leveon Bell come off suspension to solidify the stretch run, who will the Swords have? Waiting for more trades to drop. !
Sometimes you just need a little (or a lot of) luck.
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I'm for compromise, but will chose DH over week 17 championship if it comes down to it.

I like these compromises the best:

1. Play only two division opponents twice
1a. Rotate each year
1b. Use previous year's division standings (#1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3) to determine who you play once

2. Rotate non-division opponent
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I'm for compromise, but will chose DH over week 17 championship if it comes down to it.

I like these compromises the best:

1. Play only two division opponents twice
1a. Rotate each year
1b. Use previous year's division standings (#1 vs #4 and #2 vs #3) to determine who you play once

2. Rotate non-division opponent
I would support option 2 much more than the 1st. Could also seed the non-divisional opponents who are skipped like you did with the option 1 example.
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Old October 3rd, 2017, 05:12 PM   #12
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I could be swayed, if you consider contract renegotiation of traded players ;-)
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