2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations

Preds · March 8th, 2007, 09:20 AM

I know we've voted to delay the start of RFA bidding till I return in late August, but I don't see any reason to delay the tendering of RFA's, Franchise Players, and renegotiations prior to the March 31st deadline as stated in the rules.

Where does everyone else stand on this. Do you want everything pushed back until late April, or just the actual bidding process (which is really all we need IMO).

Burt the Butcher · March 8th, 2007, 10:07 AM

March 31st works for me.

Nittany Dodgers · March 8th, 2007, 10:57 AM

Hmm. I'm torn on this. Requiring the tenders by 3/31, but not starting the bidding for 3+ weeks hurts the tendering team. What if something happens between 3/31 and 4/23? Normally, that risk is shared by the tendering team and the bidding teams. Now it is all on the tendering team. I think if we are moving the bidding back until 4/23, the tenders shouldn't be due until 4/22.

Preds · March 8th, 2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Hmm. I'm torn on this. Requiring the tenders by 3/31, but not starting the bidding for 3+ weeks hurts the tendering team. What if something happens between 3/31 and 4/23? Normally, that risk is shared by the tendering team and the bidding teams. Now it is all on the tendering team. I think if we are moving the bidding back until 4/23, the tenders shouldn't be due until 4/22.

What about Franchise delerations and contract renegotiations?

Nittany Dodgers · March 8th, 2007, 11:14 AM

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What about Franchise delerations and contract renegotiations?

I'd say that since those are not affected at all by the delay, they should remain due 3/31.

Preds · March 8th, 2007, 11:18 AM

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I'd say that since those are not affected at all by the delay, they should remain due 3/31.

One could easily argue that their choice of franchise tender or contract renegotiation could have changed depending on their RFA declarations. I think if you push the RFA declaration back you have to push back the other 2 as well.

Nittany Dodgers · March 8th, 2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

One could easily argue that their choice of franchise tender or contract renegotiation could have changed depending on their RFA declarations. I think if you push the RFA declaration back you have to push back the other 2 as well.

While I don't agree it is a very realistic presumption, I don't have a problem with moving everything back.

Preds · March 8th, 2007, 12:26 PM

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While I don't agree it is a very realistic presumption, I don't have a problem with moving everything back.

Really? I think it's a package deal. If circumstances change over those 3+ weeks, teams may want to franchise a player instead of RFA tagging them, or vice versa. Same goes for a contract reneg, if a siuation changes, a guy you may have RFA tagged may become more or less valuable in a corntract reneg via trade.

Personally, I'm fine with either making all declarations at the end of March, or pushing them all back. Splitting them is the one thing I'd not be in favor of.

Nittany Dodgers · March 8th, 2007, 12:35 PM

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Really? I think it's a package deal. If circumstances change over those 3+ weeks, teams may want to franchise a player instead of RFA tagging them, or vice versa. Same goes for a contract reneg, if a siuation changes, a guy you may have RFA tagged may become more or less valuable in a corntract reneg via trade.

Personally, I'm fine with either making all declarations at the end of March, or pushing them all back. Splitting them is the one thing I'd not be in favor of.

You're right. I didn't really think it through, but yes the Franchise tags and RFA tenders are definitely linked.

Delay them all to the 22nd IMO.

Burt the Butcher · March 8th, 2007, 12:57 PM

Let's move all 3 to April 22nd then. If anyone strongly objects, speak up now....

smsmith40 · March 8th, 2007, 01:16 PM

I didn't want to move the RFA period back but given that we are, we should move the declaration too.

Flaxwless · March 8th, 2007, 01:50 PM

Sounds good.

Flaxwless · March 8th, 2007, 02:21 PM

Another date is the last day for cuts to count against the 2006 cap, which is currently 3/31.

Should we push back this date as well?

I really don't care, but I think we should not push it back. If you're going to cut someone I doubt 3 weeks will make a difference as the date is for cap measures so you'd usually cut someone with a large contract. But up to you guys.

Preds · March 8th, 2007, 02:22 PM

The Soft Cap Deadline should also be pushed back IMO. Frank asked me about it, and I think it all plays a part in who you do or don't declare.

Liquid Swords · March 8th, 2007, 03:00 PM

push 'em all back...my 2 cents

Burt the Butcher · March 14th, 2007, 04:11 PM

Where are the RFA tender levels stored? I can't seem to find them anywhere.....

Preds · March 14th, 2007, 04:56 PM

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Where are the RFA tender levels stored? I can't seem to find them anywhere.....

Ya gotta look on the RFA board Burt! It's even a sticky!

http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9040

Burt the Butcher · March 14th, 2007, 05:06 PM

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Ya gotta look on the RFA board Burt! It's even a sticky!

http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9040

I was looking in the 'friggin rules!!

Preds · March 14th, 2007, 05:52 PM

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I was looking in the 'friggin rules!!

An update of the rules is Brian's undertaking. He's still getting to that, somewhere down the line I'm sure!

March 8th, 2007, 09:20 AM	#1
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,125	2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations I know we've voted to delay the start of RFA bidding till I return in late August, but I don't see any reason to delay the tendering of RFA's, Franchise Players, and renegotiations prior to the March 31st deadline as stated in the rules. Where does everyone else stand on this. Do you want everything pushed back until late April, or just the actual bidding process (which is really all we need IMO). __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022* ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

March 8th, 2007, 10:07 AM	#2
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 17,959	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations March 31st works for me. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 8th, 2007, 10:57 AM	#3
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations Hmm. I'm torn on this. Requiring the tenders by 3/31, but not starting the bidding for 3+ weeks hurts the tendering team. What if something happens between 3/31 and 4/23? Normally, that risk is shared by the tendering team and the bidding teams. Now it is all on the tendering team. I think if we are moving the bidding back until 4/23, the tenders shouldn't be due until 4/22.

March 8th, 2007, 12:57 PM	#10
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 17,959	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations Let's move all 3 to April 22nd then. If anyone strongly objects, speak up now.... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 8th, 2007, 01:16 PM	#11
smsmith40 Ghost in the Machine Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: United Kingdom* Posts: 620	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations I didn't want to move the RFA period back but given that we are, we should move the declaration too.

March 8th, 2007, 01:50 PM	#12
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations Sounds good. __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

March 8th, 2007, 02:21 PM	#13
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations Another date is the last day for cuts to count against the 2006 cap, which is currently 3/31. Should we push back this date as well? I really don't care, but I think we should not push it back. If you're going to cut someone I doubt 3 weeks will make a difference as the date is for cap measures so you'd usually cut someone with a large contract. But up to you guys. __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

March 8th, 2007, 02:22 PM	#14
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,125	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations The Soft Cap Deadline should also be pushed back IMO. Frank asked me about it, and I think it all plays a part in who you do or don't declare. __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022* ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

March 8th, 2007, 03:00 PM	#15
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 15,249	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations push 'em all back...my 2 cents

March 14th, 2007, 04:11 PM	#16
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 17,959	Re: 2007 SACD RFA Tenders, Franchise Tags, and Renegotiations Where are the RFA tender levels stored? I can't seem to find them anywhere..... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

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