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Old May 1st, 2017, 02:16 PM   #1
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Old May 10th, 2017, 10:09 AM   #12
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Unless I'm missing something, I show that this acquisition puts Tommyknockers over the salary cap by 198cbs
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I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?
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RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?
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Old May 10th, 2017, 04:06 PM   #15
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I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?
Yah, MFL only has those on your current roster. Patrick adds RFA salaries to the App. I have no way of doing this on MFL. So like Bobby pointed out, unless your RFA has been opened for bidding, that salary still counts against your cap
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RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?
The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA
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The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA
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This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?
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This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?
That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.
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That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.
Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?
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Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?
He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.
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He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.
.. that does make sense!
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One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?
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One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?
Alll 1st cap offenses come with a 20% penalty plus 30 day moratorium on bidding on that player. As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.
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As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.
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