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Miners May 1st, 2017 02:16 PM

DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
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pacificscrub May 1st, 2017 02:59 PM

Re: DL Joseph Linval MIN
 
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Miners May 2nd, 2017 12:32 PM

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emerald May 2nd, 2017 12:40 PM

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pacificscrub May 2nd, 2017 12:52 PM

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emerald May 3rd, 2017 11:21 AM

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Miners May 3rd, 2017 05:50 PM

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emerald May 3rd, 2017 06:05 PM

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Miners May 4th, 2017 12:48 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN
 
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Liquid Swords May 7th, 2017 03:56 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN
 
SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb

Floyds have 72 hours from time of sale to Match or Decline

Burt the Butcher May 8th, 2017 10:54 AM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - pending Floyds decision*
 
Decline

Liquid Swords May 10th, 2017 10:09 AM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Unless I'm missing something, I show that this acquisition puts Tommyknockers over the salary cap by 198cbs

Miners May 10th, 2017 01:28 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?

Bounty Hunter May 10th, 2017 02:12 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?

Burt the Butcher May 10th, 2017 04:06 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miners (Post 137997)
I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?

Yah, MFL only has those on your current roster. Patrick adds RFA salaries to the App. I have no way of doing this on MFL. So like Bobby pointed out, unless your RFA has been opened for bidding, that salary still counts against your cap

Burt the Butcher May 10th, 2017 04:08 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter (Post 138001)
RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?

The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA

Bounty Hunter May 10th, 2017 04:13 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher (Post 138009)
The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA

Sounds good

pacificscrub May 10th, 2017 04:28 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?

Burt the Butcher May 13th, 2017 12:39 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pacificscrub (Post 138014)
This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?

That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.

PencilGeeks May 13th, 2017 02:32 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher (Post 138084)
That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.

Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?

Burt the Butcher May 13th, 2017 02:50 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeeks (Post 138086)
Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?

He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.

PencilGeeks May 13th, 2017 06:53 PM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher (Post 138087)
He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.

:agree: .. that does make sense! :)

Miners May 16th, 2017 11:41 AM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?

Burt the Butcher May 16th, 2017 11:47 AM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miners (Post 138134)
One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?

Alll 1st cap offenses come with a 20% penalty plus 30 day moratorium on bidding on that player. As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.

Liquid Swords May 16th, 2017 11:49 AM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher (Post 138135)
As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.

:agree:

Miners May 16th, 2017 11:51 AM

Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**
 
Thanks for the clarification.


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