DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**

[Miners]

200

[pacificscrub]

250

[Miners]

275

[emerald]

300

[pacificscrub]

350

[emerald]

385

[Miners]

390

[emerald]

400

[Miners]

425

[Liquid Swords]

SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb

Floyds have 72 hours from time of sale to Match or Decline

[Burt the Butcher]

Decline

[Liquid Swords]

Unless I'm missing something, I show that this acquisition puts Tommyknockers over the salary cap by 198cbs

[Miners]

I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?

[Bounty Hunter]

RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?

[Burt the Butcher]

Originally Posted by Miners

I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?

Yah, MFL only has those on your current roster. Patrick adds RFA salaries to the App. I have no way of doing this on MFL. So like Bobby pointed out, unless your RFA has been opened for bidding, that salary still counts against your cap

[Burt the Butcher]

Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter

RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?

The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA

[Bounty Hunter]

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA

Sounds good

[pacificscrub]

This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?

[Burt the Butcher]

Originally Posted by pacificscrub

This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?

That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.

[PencilGeeks]

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.

Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?

[Burt the Butcher]

Originally Posted by PencilGeeks

Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?

He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.

[PencilGeeks]

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.

.. that does make sense!

[Miners]

One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?

[Burt the Butcher]

Originally Posted by Miners

One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?

Alll 1st cap offenses come with a 20% penalty plus 30 day moratorium on bidding on that player. As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.

[Liquid Swords]

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.

[Miners]

Thanks for the clarification.