Freedom 2008 RFA declaration

[Philadelphia Freedom]

QB - Derek Anderson (2nd round)

WR - Reggie Wayne (1st round)

K - Josh Brown (4th round)

As everyone else has indicated, these are subject to change up to the deadline

[Popes]

FYI, take a look at your cap. By my calculations, these tenders will put you over the 2008 cap come April 1. I've got you over by $385 with these declarations.

[Nittany Dodgers]

I'd concur with that.

[Philadelphia Freedom]

You are both correct. I have not had an issue in the past and forgot that you could not go over the cap with your tenders. I will make another post (in this thread) with my updated tenders.

[Philadelphia Freedom]

QB - Derek Anderson (3rd round)

WR - Reggie Wayne (1st round)

K - Josh Brown (4th round)

As everyone else has indicated, these are subject to change up to the deadline

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

Originally Posted by Popes

FYI, take a look at your cap. By my calculations, these tenders will put you over the 2008 cap come April 1. I've got you over by $385 with these declarations.

I'm lazy & don't want to look up the rules... but is this really a rule? Why not allow a team to make 3 1st round tenders, knowing full well that he will be NOTE MATCHING at least one or more? That should be at least an option, in my opinion. (Then again, I could be barking up a tree that we've already cut down - or already found a blind nut... or already thrown crap on, depeding on what metaphor you like!).

[Valley Avengers]

8A. Restricted Free Agents

Once a players contract ends, they becomes a free agent, however, teams are allowed to designate up to 3 players as Restricted Free Agents (RFA's) by tendering one of four different RFA tender offers. Once a team tenders a bid, that player is considered part of their active roster and the tendered salary counts against the teams cap. The RFA Bidding Auctions will begin on April 1 each season and end on April 30th.

It is actually part of the rules. I can't think of a completely satisfactory explanation for it, but I do think that it's a good rule. Any league "old timers" feel free to step in at this point.

[Flaxwless]

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

I'm lazy & don't want to look up the rules... but is this really a rule? Why not allow a team to make 3 1st round tenders, knowing full well that he will be NOTE MATCHING at least one or more? That should be at least an option, in my opinion. (Then again, I could be barking up a tree that we've already cut down - or already found a blind nut... or already thrown crap on, depeding on what metaphor you like!).

To prvent exactly what you are mentioning... although with the current system with RFAs lost not leading directly to draft picks, I would be okay if it were eliminated.

[Nittany Dodgers]

If you don't count RFA tenders against a teams cap, and a team bids other players up over their cap if you included their own RFA tenders, what happens at the end of the RFA period when their players haven't been bid on?

Also, if teams aren't contrained by their own tenders, teams will tend to tag players at a higher level in the hopes they actually get bid up that high. Right now, a team such as Matt can only tender players at a certain level because of his cap space. If he wasn't contrained by the cap, and didn't really plan on matching any of these guys, he could tender them at a higher level and hope to get the higher level of compensation, even though he could never afford to bring the players back at that price. Do we really want to go back down the road where were are handing out more higher picks? We just fixed this system after handing out, what, seven first round comp picks? Now after fixing that and not even going through one RFA period, people are talking about tweaking the system so more higher picks would be handed out? Come on people...

[Valley Avengers]

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Do we really want to go back down the road where were are handing out more higher picks? We just fixed this system after handing out, what, seven first round comp picks? Now after fixing that and not even going through one RFA period, people are talking about tweaking the system so more higher picks would be handed out? Come on people...

Preach it, brother!

[Amish]

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

If you don't count RFA tenders against a teams cap, and a team bids other players up over their cap if you included their own RFA tenders, what happens at the end of the RFA period when their players haven't been bid on?

Also, if teams aren't contrained by their own tenders, teams will tend to tag players at a higher level in the hopes they actually get bid up that high. Right now, a team such as Matt can only tender players at a certain level because of his cap space. If he wasn't contrained by the cap, and didn't really plan on matching any of these guys, he could tender them at a higher level and hope to get the higher level of compensation, even though he could never afford to bring the players back at that price. Do we really want to go back down the road where were are handing out more higher picks? We just fixed this system after handing out, what, seven first round comp picks? Now after fixing that and not even going through one RFA period, people are talking about tweaking the system so more higher picks would be handed out? Come on people...

Nicely stated and I 100% agree. We have to keep the tender being count against the cap otherwise the cap doesn't matter and anyone someone wanted to get rid of they would 1st round comp.

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

I'm lazy & don't want to look up the rules... but is this really a rule? Why not allow a team to make 3 1st round tenders, knowing full well that he will be NOTE MATCHING at least one or more? That should be at least an option, in my opinion. (Then again, I could be barking up a tree that we've already cut down - or already found a blind nut... or already thrown crap on, depeding on what metaphor you like!).

Please strike this protest from the record. Nothing to see here. Move along.