Doggler and Burt Trade

Doggler · March 24th, 2006, 12:59 PM

Floyds get:
Plaxico Burress(655/3)
Jamie Martin(100/1)
Kevin Kaesviharn(200/1)
former-Subzero pick 1.09
former-Subzero pick 3.09

unnamed doggler team gets:
FAST Willie Parker(122/5)
Devery Henderson(100/3)
Brandon Jones(100/5)
Floyds pick 2.03
Floyds pick 5.03

Burt the Butcher · March 24th, 2006, 01:06 PM

Confirmed.

This gives me a stud WR and an extra late first rounder. Hated to give up FWP, but I was pretty deep in RB and 1.03 should get me another, so could afford to to strengthen one of my areas of apparent weakness.

Gives Doggs a stud RB to go with Edge (assuming he get's him back)

Doggler · March 24th, 2006, 01:10 PM

Actually - I checked the following:

Still under cap? Check
Still under years? Check
Still under total players? Check (hence the 2 scrubs to Burt)

HOWEVER i think i'm over on off. players, SO....but has confirmed the following

replace Kaesviharn with Az Hakim(100/1) and we should both be in compliance

Burt the Butcher · March 24th, 2006, 01:13 PM

Confoimed

Doggler · March 24th, 2006, 01:14 PM

I'm not a 4 QB, 2 RB type of guy. Did Jack go all year with just 2 RBs and hope to get lucky with injuries?

Burress is going to continue to be a monster with Eli growing, but I needed to give up something of value in order to get value. I realize FWP may very well be sharing time with a big dude again in 2006, but I'll take that risk. I didn't want to take Brandon Jones as I don't think things look good for a guy like him in TEN....not only does he have to compete (off of injury even) with other solid 2nd year guys and Calico, but they brought in Givens. Ugly situation. But his cap hit won't even be that bad if things don't work out for him. Henderson? I like him but Stallworth finally put it mostly together last year and Horn isn't done yet.

We'll see where this gets me. Time to look for trade #2.

Preds · March 27th, 2006, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggler

Floyds get:
Plaxico Burress(655/3)
Jamie Martin(100/1)
Kevin Kaesviharn(200/1)
former-Subzero pick 1.09
former-Subzero pick 3.09

unnamed doggler team gets:
FAST Willie Parker(122/5)
Devery Henderson(100/3)
Brandon Jones(100/5)
Floyds pick 2.03
Floyds pick 5.03

Sadly, I have to report a kink in this trade, while updating both apps to reflect all the changes, I noticed that Subzero had previously traded his 2006 1st to the Mountain Lions. http://predsff.com/forums/showthread...6349#post46349

Sorry Doggs, the apps weren't accurate.

Can you guys rework term around that? Maybe include Doggs 2007 1st instead?

Doggler · March 27th, 2006, 12:44 PM

Argh.

We'll get together and see what we can conjure up.

Doggler · March 27th, 2006, 02:00 PM

OK.

Burt to confirm. Here's what we'll do:
Floyds get:
Plaxico Burress(655/3)
Jamie Martin(100/1)
Az Hakim(100/1)
former-Subzero 2007 1st*
former-Subzero pick 3.09

unnamed doggler team gets:
FAST Willie Parker(122/5)
Devery Henderson(100/3)
Brandon Jones(100/5)
Deangelo Hall(150/1) <- added in edit
Floyds pick 2.03
Floyds pick 5.03

* the following condition applies to dogglers 2007 1st:
-If dogglers 2007 pick is between 1.1 and 1.4, then:
doggler gives his 2007 4th, floyds give their 2007 2nd

-If dogglers 2007 pick is between 1.10 and 1.12 then:
doggler gives his 2007 2nd, floyds give their 2007 4th

Burt the Butcher · March 27th, 2006, 02:19 PM

Confirmed.

Nittany Dodgers · March 27th, 2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

Sadly, I have to report a kink in this trade, while updating both apps to reflect all the changes, I noticed that Subzero had previously traded his 2006 1st to the Mountain Lions. http://predsff.com/forums/showthread...6349#post46349

Sorry Doggs, the apps weren't accurate.

Can you guys rework term around that? Maybe include Doggs 2007 1st instead?

Didn't we have this come up last year in the Frenzy, Mike? Currently, technically, a 2007 draft pick is two years away, which means trading of those picks is not allowed until the 2006 year. No?

Philadelphia Freedom · March 27th, 2006, 02:56 PM

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Didn't we have this come up last year in the Frenzy, Mike? Currently, technically, a 2007 draft pick is two years away, which means trading of those picks is not allowed until the 2006 year. No?

Yes, this was the Charles Rogers rule. Jim and I were trying to do a deal that would have involved a conditional pick for the 2006 draft (prior to the 2005 draft happening). We were told that, that meant it was two years.

Doggler · March 27th, 2006, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Didn't we have this come up last year in the Frenzy, Mike? Currently, technically, a 2007 draft pick is two years away, which means trading of those picks is not allowed until the 2006 year. No?

And I thought in the CDL we resolved the same issue by considering draft picks from 2007 eligible for trading once the 2005 season concluded. That was how I understood it, but whatever it is here is whatever I abide by.

Let me know what the interpretation is. It seems I'm running out of options to make this deal work.

Preds · March 27th, 2006, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Didn't we have this come up last year in the Frenzy, Mike? Currently, technically, a 2007 draft pick is two years away, which means trading of those picks is not allowed until the 2006 year. No?

Y, I forgot about April 1 starting the new year for this, but I think we could bend the rules here in light of the situation.

Doggler was working off of bad information, and it was our fault. Lets give the guy a break.

Nittany Dodgers · March 27th, 2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

Y, I forgot about April 1 starting the new year for this, but I think we could bend the rules here in light of the situation.

Doggler was working off of bad information, and it was our fault. Lets give the guy a break.

I have no problem with that.

Preds · March 27th, 2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

I have no problem with that.

It's the new "relaxed" Preds speaking BTW. ;)

Burt the Butcher · March 27th, 2006, 03:20 PM

All the players involved either have multi-year deals, or will be getting dropped on April 1st, so either way I don't think it matters. If we have to wait until April 1st, it'll still work, just with less players going back and forth. Doggs was thinking of renegging Hall, but I don't really think he was that big on it either way.

Nittany Dodgers · March 27th, 2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

It's the new "relaxed" Preds speaking BTW. ;)

No kidding. I recall you being the driving force against the trade scenario last year. I'm sure Matt appreciates the new and improved Preds.

Philadelphia Freedom · March 27th, 2006, 04:06 PM

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No kidding. I recall you being the driving force against the trade scenario last year. I'm sure Matt appreciates the new and improved Preds.

A day (year) late and dollar short!! Oh, well Rogers would not have netted me much more anyway since it was a conditional pick and his typical condition seems to be injured!

Burt the Butcher · September 23rd, 2006, 09:23 PM

The 2007 1st rounder I got in this deal from Doggs isn't reflected in the Draft Tracker app

Burt the Butcher · October 24th, 2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

The 2007 1st rounder I got in this deal from Doggs isn't reflected in the Draft Tracker app

Still not there......:dammit

Preds · October 24th, 2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

Still not there......:dammit

Relax, I haven't touched the draft tracker in months and honestly don't feel like updating it any time soon. As it is, I dread updating MFL with all the transactions once a week. When the time comes we'll get it right.

If anyone wants to volunteer to take over updating things be my guest, I honestly just haven't been as diligent as years past, mainly due to flat out disinterest in FF. And it has nothing to do with my 2-5 record in SACD, I'm 12-2 in my local and 5-2 in the Frenzy, and I pretty much feel just as dissasociated with those leagues.

I fear my retirement from FF is looming in the not too distant future, my heart just hasn't been in it. :Sorry

Flaxwless · October 24th, 2006, 09:10 PM

It is there brut.... check in pending draft status.

March 24th, 2006, 12:59 PM	#1
Doggler SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 964	Doggler and Burt Trade Floyds get: Plaxico Burress(655/3) Jamie Martin(100/1) Kevin Kaesviharn(200/1) former-Subzero pick 1.09 former-Subzero pick 3.09 unnamed doggler team gets: FAST Willie Parker(122/5) Devery Henderson(100/3) Brandon Jones(100/5) Floyds pick 2.03 Floyds pick 5.03 __________________ Red Rocks Pea Cocks

March 24th, 2006, 01:10 PM	#3
Doggler SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 964	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade Actually - I checked the following: Still under cap? Check Still under years? Check Still under total players? Check (hence the 2 scrubs to Burt) HOWEVER i think i'm over on off. players, SO....but has confirmed the following replace Kaesviharn with Az Hakim(100/1) and we should both be in compliance __________________ Red Rocks Pea Cocks

March 24th, 2006, 01:13 PM	#4
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade Confoimed __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 24th, 2006, 01:14 PM	#5
Doggler SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 964	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade I'm not a 4 QB, 2 RB type of guy. Did Jack go all year with just 2 RBs and hope to get lucky with injuries? Burress is going to continue to be a monster with Eli growing, but I needed to give up something of value in order to get value. I realize FWP may very well be sharing time with a big dude again in 2006, but I'll take that risk. I didn't want to take Brandon Jones as I don't think things look good for a guy like him in TEN....not only does he have to compete (off of injury even) with other solid 2nd year guys and Calico, but they brought in Givens. Ugly situation. But his cap hit won't even be that bad if things don't work out for him. Henderson? I like him but Stallworth finally put it mostly together last year and Horn isn't done yet. We'll see where this gets me. Time to look for trade #2. __________________ Red Rocks Pea Cocks

March 27th, 2006, 12:44 PM	#7
Doggler SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 964	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade Argh. We'll get together and see what we can conjure up. __________________ Red Rocks Pea Cocks

March 24th, 2006, 01:06 PM	#2
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade Confirmed. This gives me a stud WR and an extra late first rounder. Hated to give up FWP, but I was pretty deep in RB and 1.03 should get me another, so could afford to to strengthen one of my areas of apparent weakness. Gives Doggs a stud RB to go with Edge (assuming he get's him back) __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 27th, 2006, 02:00 PM	#8
Doggler SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 964	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade OK. Burt to confirm. Here's what we'll do: Floyds get: Plaxico Burress(655/3) Jamie Martin(100/1) Az Hakim(100/1) former-Subzero 2007 1st* former-Subzero pick 3.09 unnamed doggler team gets: FAST Willie Parker(122/5) Devery Henderson(100/3) Brandon Jones(100/5) Deangelo Hall(150/1) <- added in edit Floyds pick 2.03 Floyds pick 5.03 * the following condition applies to dogglers 2007 1st: -If dogglers 2007 pick is between 1.1 and 1.4, then: doggler gives his 2007 4th, floyds give their 2007 2nd -If dogglers 2007 pick is between 1.10 and 1.12 then: doggler gives his 2007 2nd, floyds give their 2007 4th __________________ Red Rocks Pea Cocks Last edited by Doggler; March 27th, 2006 at 02:12 PM. Reason: had to add one more Floyd scrub to keep him under cap

March 27th, 2006, 02:19 PM	#9
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade Confirmed. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 27th, 2006, 03:20 PM	#16
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade All the players involved either have multi-year deals, or will be getting dropped on April 1st, so either way I don't think it matters. If we have to wait until April 1st, it'll still work, just with less players going back and forth. Doggs was thinking of renegging Hall, but I don't really think he was that big on it either way. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

September 23rd, 2006, 09:23 PM	#19
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade The 2007 1st rounder I got in this deal from Doggs isn't reflected in the Draft Tracker app __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

October 24th, 2006, 09:10 PM	#22
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: Doggler and Burt Trade It is there brut.... check in pending draft status. __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

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