Bell vs Mixon MNF...

chasmvp19 · November 30th, 2017, 04:04 PM

I would guess our game comes down to the Monday nighter...Bell via trade versus Mixon via draft...I'm just hoping for a chance...

Looking at my team and I just don't see a long winning streak or striking fear in any opponent...*sigh* bad defensive matchups and no real TE to speak of...should have bid a little more on Walker I guess...my guys really need a rest...do they have one more in them...is the coach thinking too much...can I really start 2 WR versus my defense??? UGH!!!!

Bounty Hunter · November 30th, 2017, 07:18 PM

That does suck with your DEF #2 against pass going against 2 WRs. Guess that DEF has to score a couple TDs and give up a few for max value.

And yes you should have bid more on Walker as i was asleep at the wheel on that one.

predator06 · November 30th, 2017, 07:35 PM

I wish I had a way to keep him. I had to dump him to make room for 3 WRs. Tried to trade for a 3rd round pick with no luck

chasmvp19 · November 30th, 2017, 08:49 PM

I seem to like giving up the same 3rd rounder multiple times...lol

chasmvp19 · November 30th, 2017, 08:51 PM

These "experts" almost have me starting ATL defense at home vs Vikes...now me being a Min fan don't like it one bit...plus Emerald has Diggs going...hmmmm...I'll have to look at that for the 100th time....and now Witten killing me....

chasmvp19 · November 30th, 2017, 09:14 PM

Did anyone hear me scream YES!!!!! and pump my fist in the air on that Witten TD??? Ok, long way to go, but at least no zero at TE...lol

Bounty Hunter · December 1st, 2017, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chasmvp19

These "experts" almost have me starting ATL defense at home vs Vikes...now me being a Min fan don't like it one bit...plus Emerald has Diggs going...hmmmm...I'll have to look at that for the 100th time....and now Witten killing me....

A lot of those "experts" are really bad at their jobs. How many people have jobs where they can be wrong that much and still have jobs. Just think how much $ psychics could make if they were really good at their job.

Burt the Butcher · December 1st, 2017, 12:54 PM

Good stuff...enjoy your writeups Chuck.

chasmvp19 · December 3rd, 2017, 11:11 PM

Pretty sure Bell is NOT 25 points better than Mixon....sheesh, uh boy....

predator06 · December 4th, 2017, 07:08 AM

Pretty sure Martavis is NOT 10 points better than AJ Green either!

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · December 4th, 2017, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by predator06

Pretty sure Martavis is NOT 10 points better than AJ Green either!

On any given Sunday...

Preds · December 4th, 2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

On any given Sunday...

Or Monday. Especially if AB is indeed out.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · December 4th, 2017, 01:20 PM

That's my only hope... the "Stillers" should rest their all-star stud WR this week. It's for the best.

Liquid Swords · December 4th, 2017, 02:02 PM

Oh man. Just noticed that Freedom had Abdullah in starting lineup instead of Freeman. Ouch!

Bounty Hunter · December 4th, 2017, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

Oh man. Just noticed that Freedom had Abdullah in starting lineup instead of Freeman. Ouch!

Speaking of starting lineups, Swords had WR Seth Roberts via note and he had 7.1 points. Could make a difference in All play wins for someone and playoff implications.

Preds · December 4th, 2017, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

That's my only hope... the "Stillers" should rest their all-star stud WR this week. It's for the best.

Preds had no choice but to rest him, couldn't risk a 0. Hope the Steelers do the same.

Burt the Butcher · December 4th, 2017, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

Preds had no choice but to rest him, couldn't risk a 0. Hope the Steelers do the same.

With Baltimore breathing down their necks? If Brown can walk, he'll play...no way they rest him unless its serious enough that playing could aggravate it to the point of having to sit out multiple games...

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · December 4th, 2017, 08:18 PM

D'oh!

Preds · December 4th, 2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

D'oh!

Hope they use him for nothing more than a decoy. They also dressed all of their WRs which is unusual.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · December 4th, 2017, 10:15 PM

Well... doesn’t look like this is going to be “any given Monday” for Bryant.

predator06 · December 4th, 2017, 11:56 PM

Wowowowowowow

Preds · December 5th, 2017, 12:26 AM

So Cards lose the division by around a half a point. Pretty much same as the Preds who lost 2 games by under 1, including one against the Bees who won the division by a game.

Sucks doesn’t it Chuck!

Tie-Breakers are going to be a bear for spots 4-6.

Swords somehow find there way defending their title as the top seed despite a losing All Play record. Amazing matchup luck.

Bees are 2 seed with the Cards loss. Rookie Ref roosters win the West and the 3 seed.

4 and 5 have. 3 way tie between Cards, Dogs and Preds

Not sure how the tie is broken. Cards have total points lead so I think they’re 4 seed. Preds have next highest points but lost Ron dogs H2H, not sure what precedence of tie-breaking order is in place for the 5 seed under a 3 way tie.

If Dogs are given 5 seed Preds are the 6 seed with 89 All Play wins. If Preds at ethe 5 seed than Dogs with 74 All play wins barely sneak in as the 6 seed.

The big question is do we sort the 3 ties teams into seeds 4 and 5 first based on total points, or do we sort for the 4 seed, and then start over for the 5 seed with the 2 remaining teams based on H2H. Sorting over gives the Dogs the 5 seed. Sorting 4 and 5 as one tie breaker gives the the Preds the 5 seed.

Commish Jim needs to guide us on how to apply the 4-5 tiebreakers. I’m honestly not sure how to proceed.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · December 5th, 2017, 01:58 AM

Would it help to look at the H2H2H records of the 3 tied teams?

predator06 · December 5th, 2017, 07:05 AM

I think you sort for 4, then sort for 5, then sort for all play

Preds · December 5th, 2017, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

Would it help to look at the H2H2H records of the 3 tied teams?

Everyone is 1-1. Preds beat Cards lost to Dogs. Cards beat Dogs lost to Preds, Dogs beat Preds, lost to Cards.

Liquid Swords · December 5th, 2017, 08:37 AM

If all are tied H2H, then #4 would be total points leader between the three teams. For #5 go back to H2H, division record and total points between other two teams. Sounds like #6 would then be the remaining team unless another team has a better all-play record.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · December 5th, 2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

If all are tied H2H, then #4 would be total points leader between the three teams. For #5 go back to H2H, division record and total points between other two teams. Sounds like #6 would then be the remaining team unless another team has a better all-play record.

That sounds like the plan.

Bounty Hunter · December 5th, 2017, 09:56 AM

Well the rules say this:

12C. Qualifying/Seeding Tie-Breaker

The Leagues tie-breaking system for play-off qualification and seeding is as follows:

1. Head-to-head record
2. Division Record (between teams from the same division)
3. Total Overall Points
4. Coin Toss

Maybe this was covered in the discussion and its to confusing for me to recognize it.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · December 5th, 2017, 10:29 AM

Yes. I believe they’re consistent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter

Well the rules say this:

12C. Qualifying/Seeding Tie-Breaker

The Leagues tie-breaking system for play-off qualification and seeding is as follows:

1. Head-to-head record
2. Division Record (between teams from the same division)
3. Total Overall Points
4. Coin Toss

Maybe this was covered in the discussion and its to confusing for me to recognize it.

Preds · December 5th, 2017, 12:56 PM

So

1 Swords
2 Killer Bees
3 Red Roosters
4 Cards
5 Dogs
6 Preds

Week 14
6 Preds at 3 Red Roosters
5 Dogs at 4 Cards

1 Swords and 2 Killer Bees on Bye

November 30th, 2017, 04:04 PM	#1
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Bell vs Mixon MNF... I would guess our game comes down to the Monday nighter...Bell via trade versus Mixon via draft...I'm just hoping for a chance... Looking at my team and I just don't see a long winning streak or striking fear in any opponent...sigh bad defensive matchups and no real TE to speak of...should have bid a little more on Walker I guess...my guys really need a rest...do they have one more in them...is the coach thinking too much...can I really start 2 WR versus my defense??? UGH!!!! __________________ No one can hear you scream in outer space... 2017 Frenzy Bowl (Runner-Up)

November 30th, 2017, 07:35 PM	#3
predator06 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 1,206	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... I wish I had a way to keep him. I had to dump him to make room for 3 WRs. Tried to trade for a 3rd round pick with no luck

December 1st, 2017, 12:54 PM	#8
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Good stuff...enjoy your writeups Chuck. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 3rd, 2017, 11:11 PM	#9
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Pretty sure Bell is NOT 25 points better than Mixon....sheesh, uh boy.... __________________ No one can hear you scream in outer space... 2017 Frenzy Bowl (Runner-Up)

December 4th, 2017, 07:08 AM	#10
predator06 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 1,206	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Pretty sure Martavis is NOT 10 points better than AJ Green either!

November 30th, 2017, 07:18 PM	#2
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... That does suck with your DEF #2 against pass going against 2 WRs. Guess that DEF has to score a couple TDs and give up a few for max value. And yes you should have bid more on Walker as i was asleep at the wheel on that one.

November 30th, 2017, 08:49 PM	#4
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... I seem to like giving up the same 3rd rounder multiple times...lol __________________ No one can hear you scream in outer space... 2017 Frenzy Bowl (Runner-Up)

November 30th, 2017, 08:51 PM	#5
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... These "experts" almost have me starting ATL defense at home vs Vikes...now me being a Min fan don't like it one bit...plus Emerald has Diggs going...hmmmm...I'll have to look at that for the 100th time....and now Witten killing me.... __________________ No one can hear you scream in outer space... 2017 Frenzy Bowl (Runner-Up)

November 30th, 2017, 09:14 PM	#6
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Did anyone hear me scream YES!!!!! and pump my fist in the air on that Witten TD??? Ok, long way to go, but at least no zero at TE...lol __________________ No one can hear you scream in outer space... 2017 Frenzy Bowl (Runner-Up)

December 4th, 2017, 01:20 PM	#13
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... That's my only hope... the "Stillers" should rest their all-star stud WR this week. It's for the best.

December 4th, 2017, 02:02 PM	#14
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Oh man. Just noticed that Freedom had Abdullah in starting lineup instead of Freeman. Ouch!

December 4th, 2017, 08:18 PM	#18
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... D'oh!

December 4th, 2017, 10:15 PM	#20
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Well... doesn’t look like this is going to be “any given Monday” for Bryant.

December 4th, 2017, 11:56 PM	#21
predator06 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 1,206	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Wowowowowowow

December 5th, 2017, 12:26 AM	#22
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... So Cards lose the division by around a half a point. Pretty much same as the Preds who lost 2 games by under 1, including one against the Bees who won the division by a game. Sucks doesn’t it Chuck! Tie-Breakers are going to be a bear for spots 4-6. Swords somehow find there way defending their title as the top seed despite a losing All Play record. Amazing matchup luck. Bees are 2 seed with the Cards loss. Rookie Ref roosters win the West and the 3 seed. 4 and 5 have. 3 way tie between Cards, Dogs and Preds Not sure how the tie is broken. Cards have total points lead so I think they’re 4 seed. Preds have next highest points but lost Ron dogs H2H, not sure what precedence of tie-breaking order is in place for the 5 seed under a 3 way tie. If Dogs are given 5 seed Preds are the 6 seed with 89 All Play wins. If Preds at ethe 5 seed than Dogs with 74 All play wins barely sneak in as the 6 seed. The big question is do we sort the 3 ties teams into seeds 4 and 5 first based on total points, or do we sort for the 4 seed, and then start over for the 5 seed with the 2 remaining teams based on H2H. Sorting over gives the Dogs the 5 seed. Sorting 4 and 5 as one tie breaker gives the the Preds the 5 seed. Commish Jim needs to guide us on how to apply the 4-5 tiebreakers. I’m honestly not sure how to proceed. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823 Last edited by Preds; December 5th, 2017 at 07:40 AM.

December 5th, 2017, 01:58 AM	#23
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Would it help to look at the H2H2H records of the 3 tied teams?

December 5th, 2017, 07:05 AM	#24
predator06 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 1,206	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... I think you sort for 4, then sort for 5, then sort for all play

December 5th, 2017, 08:37 AM	#26
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... If all are tied H2H, then #4 would be total points leader between the three teams. For #5 go back to H2H, division record and total points between other two teams. Sounds like #6 would then be the remaining team unless another team has a better all-play record.

December 5th, 2017, 09:56 AM	#28
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... Well the rules say this: 12C. Qualifying/Seeding Tie-Breaker The Leagues tie-breaking system for play-off qualification and seeding is as follows: 1. Head-to-head record 2. Division Record (between teams from the same division) 3. Total Overall Points 4. Coin Toss Maybe this was covered in the discussion and its to confusing for me to recognize it.

December 5th, 2017, 12:56 PM	#30
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: Bell vs Mixon MNF... So 1 Swords 2 Killer Bees 3 Red Roosters 4 Cards 5 Dogs 6 Preds Week 14 6 Preds at 3 Red Roosters 5 Dogs at 4 Cards 1 Swords and 2 Killer Bees on Bye __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

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