2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary - Page 2

Bounty Hunter · April 12th, 2016, 10:20 AM

Chuck, well played on the E. Sanders trade challenge to Bees.

Bounty Hunter · April 13th, 2016, 12:25 PM

Multiple player destinations potentially hanging in the balance on the Dez B. decision later this evening.

chasmvp19 · April 14th, 2016, 12:24 PM

Bobby, there are multiple offers for Sanders now...STILL listening...

Bounty Hunter · April 17th, 2016, 07:07 PM

Quite a decision for Mike on A. Brown. If he declines he's got a lot of cap space and can try for 2 of the remaining RFAs. Of course others have designs on them as well. Brown is a sure thing and he still has a formidable WR corps with good reports on Permian.

I like sure things and I'm calling a match on A. Brown. Just my .02

Preds · April 17th, 2016, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter

Quite a decision for Mike on A. Brown. If he declines he's got a lot of cap space and can try for 2 of the remaining RFAs. Of course others have designs on them as well. Brown is a sure thing and he still has a formidable WR corps with good reports on Permian.

I like sure things and I'm calling a match on A. Brown. Just my .02

Analytics I've run disagree with a match. Still undecided.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · April 17th, 2016, 11:24 PM

Hard to pass on the perennial #1 WR... but it's been done before.

chasmvp19 · April 18th, 2016, 03:35 AM

At that price he is a team/cap buster...one player can't carry a team for a whole season...especially if Big Ben has ANY issues...I have thoughts, but have insider information so I am out of the prediction business....E Sanders getting hot under the collar...

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · April 18th, 2016, 09:10 AM

Based on Mike's latest post... I think he's going to decline Brown.

predator06 · April 18th, 2016, 09:21 AM

It will put Pat in a tight spot with barely any cap room left?

Bounty Hunter · April 18th, 2016, 10:21 AM

Based on Chucks latest post I think he's going to decline.

Preds · April 18th, 2016, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasmvp19

At that price he is a team/cap buster...one player can't carry a team for a whole season...especially if Big Ben has ANY issues...I have thoughts, but have insider information so I am out of the prediction business....E Sanders getting hot under the collar...

The Preds interest in Sanders completely dissipated the day the Opihi declined Allen Hurns and he joined the Preds starting WR corps. Even had we declined Brown, we would not have made a play on Sanders going forward.

Burt the Butcher · April 18th, 2016, 12:10 PM

Pat, did you hear Dale just now? Wasn't pretty...hahahahha

Liquid Swords · April 18th, 2016, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

Pat, did you hear Dale just now? Wasn't pretty...hahahahha

Gotta keep my WR options open. Sorry, Dale!

Scorpions · April 18th, 2016, 12:14 PM

no worries, I've already decided if I will match or not.

Preds · April 18th, 2016, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpions

no worries, I've already decided if I will match or not.

Have you discussed with your analytics department yet? The Preds analytics team is pretty pissed at ownership at the moment!

Scorpions · April 18th, 2016, 12:22 PM

I am ignoring the analytics team, they are often wrong.

Preds · April 18th, 2016, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpions

I am ignoring the analytics team, they are often wrong.

Bounty Hunter · April 18th, 2016, 12:28 PM

Analytics people don't understand a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush if you got the bucks. Thats where I was coming from in my original call.

Preds · April 18th, 2016, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter

Analytics people don't understand a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush if you got the bucks. Thats where I was coming from in my original call.

Another

Burt the Butcher · April 18th, 2016, 12:46 PM

Birds, bushes and bucks...what else would you expect from a Hunter ;-)

Preds · April 19th, 2016, 12:35 PM

Ouch! The defending League Champs bumped Jonathan Stewart 1 minute before he was due to sell!

Bounty Hunter · April 19th, 2016, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

Ouch! The defending League Champs bumped Jonathan Stewart 1 minute before he was due to sell!

No comment other than "no comment"

Preds · April 19th, 2016, 01:00 PM

An interesting analytic from 2016 thus far. The top 8 paid players in the Frenzy thus far for 2016 are ALL WR's. That's a first in Frenzy history, and shows a significant movement of cbs away from RB's and towards the WR position. The top 8 WR's are paid anywhere from 2050+ to 2950, which an average of 2,363 cbs!

Only 1 RB ranks in the Top 10 salaries (9th overall), and that's ironically Lamar Miller who was a RFA matched by the Cards a week ago. #10 overall? A TE (Gronk of course).

Burt the Butcher · April 19th, 2016, 02:09 PM

Well, with the NFL moving away from a feature back, what would you expect? All the top RB's are still under contract, and those available in RFA this year are either injury prone, or pushing 30 which is doom and gloom years for NFL RB's. It really does not surprise me.

Preds · April 19th, 2016, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

Well, with the NFL moving away from a feature back, what would you expect? All the top RB's are still under contract, and those available in RFA this year are either injury prone, or pushing 30 which is doom and gloom years for NFL RB's. It really does not surprise me.

I've stated for several years now that WR's were far more important than RBs in today's NFL, as well as the Frenzy. The trend has finally caught up in Frenzy.

Preds · April 20th, 2016, 01:46 PM

With Demarius Thomas being matched by Scorpions, the 2016 RFA WR market is all but settled.

Only 3 WRs remain, and 2 appear to be near their ceiling's at 2,100 cbs. Will the spurned Killer Bees jump back into the fray on Brandon Marshall? Will someone else aside from Freedom bid on Alshon Jeffery? If Jefferey and Marshall sell and are declined, the Freedom and Chunks will essentially be trading WR's and pick up 2nd and 3rd round comp picks. Will any of the teams with excess cbs allow that to happen? Finally, does any team aside from the Freedom value Michael Crabtree at 1,200 cbs? Will he be the only RFA tagged WR not to be bid on?

Liquid Swords · April 20th, 2016, 01:49 PM

Preds · April 20th, 2016, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

With Demarius Thomas being matched by Scorpions, the 2016 RFA WR market is all but settled.

Only 3 WRs remain, and 2 appear to be near their ceiling's at 2,100 cbs. Will the spurned Killer Bees jump back into the fray on Brandon Marshall? Will someone else aside from Freedom bid on Alshon Jeffery? If Jefferey and Marshall sell and are declined, the Freedom and Chunks will essentially be trading WR's and pick up 2nd and 3rd round comp picks. Will any of the teams with excess cbs allow that to happen? Finally, does any team aside from the Freedom value Michael Crabtree at 1,200 cbs? Will he be the only RFA tagged WR not to be bid on?

Well, I guess the Opihi have answered one of these questions already!

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · April 20th, 2016, 02:35 PM

This is a crazy busy week for me. I was "out and about" much of yesterday.

Burt the Butcher · April 20th, 2016, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

This is a crazy busy week for me. I was "out and about" much of yesterday.

New pictures posted yes?

April 12th, 2016, 10:20 AM	#31
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Chuck, well played on the E. Sanders trade challenge to Bees.

April 13th, 2016, 12:25 PM	#32
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Multiple player destinations potentially hanging in the balance on the Dez B. decision later this evening.

April 14th, 2016, 12:24 PM	#33
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Bobby, there are multiple offers for Sanders now...STILL listening...

April 17th, 2016, 07:07 PM	#34
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Quite a decision for Mike on A. Brown. If he declines he's got a lot of cap space and can try for 2 of the remaining RFAs. Of course others have designs on them as well. Brown is a sure thing and he still has a formidable WR corps with good reports on Permian. I like sure things and I'm calling a match on A. Brown. Just my .02

April 17th, 2016, 11:24 PM	#36
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Hard to pass on the perennial #1 WR... but it's been done before.

April 18th, 2016, 03:35 AM	#37
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary At that price he is a team/cap buster...one player can't carry a team for a whole season...especially if Big Ben has ANY issues...I have thoughts, but have insider information so I am out of the prediction business....E Sanders getting hot under the collar... __________________ No one can hear you scream in outer space... 2017 Frenzy Bowl (Runner-Up)

April 18th, 2016, 09:10 AM	#38
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Based on Mike's latest post... I think he's going to decline Brown.

April 18th, 2016, 09:21 AM	#39
predator06 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 1,206	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary It will put Pat in a tight spot with barely any cap room left?

April 18th, 2016, 10:21 AM	#40
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Based on Chucks latest post I think he's going to decline.

April 18th, 2016, 12:10 PM	#42
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Pat, did you hear Dale just now? Wasn't pretty...hahahahha __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

April 18th, 2016, 12:14 PM	#44
Scorpions Administrator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 6,746	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary no worries, I've already decided if I will match or not.

April 18th, 2016, 12:22 PM	#46
Scorpions Administrator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 6,746	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary I am ignoring the analytics team, they are often wrong.

April 18th, 2016, 12:28 PM	#48
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Analytics people don't understand a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush if you got the bucks. Thats where I was coming from in my original call.

April 18th, 2016, 12:46 PM	#50
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Birds, bushes and bucks...what else would you expect from a Hunter ;-) __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

April 19th, 2016, 12:35 PM	#51
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Ouch! The defending League Champs bumped Jonathan Stewart 1 minute before he was due to sell! __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

April 19th, 2016, 01:00 PM	#53
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary An interesting analytic from 2016 thus far. The top 8 paid players in the Frenzy thus far for 2016 are ALL WR's. That's a first in Frenzy history, and shows a significant movement of cbs away from RB's and towards the WR position. The top 8 WR's are paid anywhere from 2050+ to 2950, which an average of 2,363 cbs! Only 1 RB ranks in the Top 10 salaries (9th overall), and that's ironically Lamar Miller who was a RFA matched by the Cards a week ago. #10 overall? A TE (Gronk of course). __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

April 19th, 2016, 02:09 PM	#54
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary Well, with the NFL moving away from a feature back, what would you expect? All the top RB's are still under contract, and those available in RFA this year are either injury prone, or pushing 30 which is doom and gloom years for NFL RB's. It really does not surprise me. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

April 20th, 2016, 01:46 PM	#56
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary With Demarius Thomas being matched by Scorpions, the 2016 RFA WR market is all but settled. Only 3 WRs remain, and 2 appear to be near their ceiling's at 2,100 cbs. Will the spurned Killer Bees jump back into the fray on Brandon Marshall? Will someone else aside from Freedom bid on Alshon Jeffery? If Jefferey and Marshall sell and are declined, the Freedom and Chunks will essentially be trading WR's and pick up 2nd and 3rd round comp picks. Will any of the teams with excess cbs allow that to happen? Finally, does any team aside from the Freedom value Michael Crabtree at 1,200 cbs? Will he be the only RFA tagged WR not to be bid on? __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

April 20th, 2016, 01:49 PM	#57
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary

April 20th, 2016, 02:35 PM	#59
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: 2016 Frenzy RFA Commentary This is a crazy busy week for me. I was "out and about" much of yesterday.

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