DL Linval Joseph MIN **SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds**

Miners · May 1st, 2017, 02:16 PM

200

pacificscrub · May 1st, 2017, 02:59 PM

250

Miners · May 2nd, 2017, 12:32 PM

275

emerald · May 2nd, 2017, 12:40 PM

300

pacificscrub · May 2nd, 2017, 12:52 PM

350

emerald · May 3rd, 2017, 11:21 AM

385

Miners · May 3rd, 2017, 05:50 PM

390

emerald · May 3rd, 2017, 06:05 PM

400

Miners · May 4th, 2017, 12:48 PM

425

Liquid Swords · May 7th, 2017, 03:56 PM

SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb

Floyds have 72 hours from time of sale to Match or Decline

Burt the Butcher · May 8th, 2017, 10:54 AM

Decline

Liquid Swords · May 10th, 2017, 10:09 AM

Unless I'm missing something, I show that this acquisition puts Tommyknockers over the salary cap by 198cbs

Miners · May 10th, 2017, 01:28 PM

I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?

Bounty Hunter · May 10th, 2017, 02:12 PM

RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?

Burt the Butcher · May 10th, 2017, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miners

I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?

Yah, MFL only has those on your current roster. Patrick adds RFA salaries to the App. I have no way of doing this on MFL. So like Bobby pointed out, unless your RFA has been opened for bidding, that salary still counts against your cap

Burt the Butcher · May 10th, 2017, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter

RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them.
http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893

The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?

The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA

Bounty Hunter · May 10th, 2017, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

The way I am reading the rules, only players waived by a team can be claimed. Not those dropped due to penalty infractions. So he is now a UFA

Sounds good

pacificscrub · May 10th, 2017, 04:28 PM

This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?

Burt the Butcher · May 13th, 2017, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pacificscrub

This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA?

That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.

PencilGeeks · May 13th, 2017, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

That would not make sense - unless someone can find precedence, he just becomes FA and can be bid on during UFA bidding once it begins.

Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?

Burt the Butcher · May 13th, 2017, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeeks

Are you saying he is no longer a RFA but instead becomes a UFA? Wouldn't that penalize the team that held his RFA rights?

He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.

PencilGeeks · May 13th, 2017, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

He had already been won, and was declined. RFA owner still gets the credit for declining. Tommyknockers get penalized after the fact, so Joseph is cut and penalty assessed, just as usual.

.. that does make sense!

Miners · May 16th, 2017, 11:41 AM

One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?

Burt the Butcher · May 16th, 2017, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miners

One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?

Alll 1st cap offenses come with a 20% penalty plus 30 day moratorium on bidding on that player. As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.

Liquid Swords · May 16th, 2017, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

As we will be having rookie draft after RFA bidding ends before UFA bidding begins, that 30 days should have passed, so yes, you will be able to bid on him once he is put up. Looks like a loophole in the rule, but I don't see an issue with it personally.

Miners · May 16th, 2017, 11:51 AM

Thanks for the clarification.

May 1st, 2017, 02:16 PM	#1
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pacificscrub SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,488	Re: DL Joseph Linval MIN 250 __________________ Don't piss off old people. The older we get, the less "life in prison" is a deterrent.

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Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN *SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - pending Floyds decision Decline __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

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Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds Unless I'm missing something, I show that this acquisition puts Tommyknockers over the salary cap by 198cbs

May 10th, 2017, 01:28 PM	#13
Miners SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,576	Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds I am trying to recall. According to the MFL site the guys I have on RFA have been dropped off so I bid accordingly. Is this not correct? I realize that those guys may come back to me at some point and may have to make moves. If this doesn't work then I guess I lose Joseph correct?

May 10th, 2017, 02:12 PM	#14
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds RFA tenders count against the cap until someone bids on them. http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25893 The question I have is does he go back into the RFA pool, waiver claim or FA pool?

May 10th, 2017, 04:28 PM	#18
pacificscrub SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,488	Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds This has happened before (but I'm too lazy to find when). I thought I remembered allowing the person to be bid on again as an RFA? __________________ Don't piss off old people. The older we get, the less "life in prison" is a deterrent.

May 16th, 2017, 11:41 AM	#23
Miners SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,576	Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds One question, Am I allowed to bid on Mr. Joseph in UFA or will he not get the opportunity to know the true greatness that is being a TommyKnocker?

May 16th, 2017, 11:51 AM	#26
Miners SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,576	Re: DL Linval Joseph MIN SOLD to Tommyknockers for 425cb - DECLINED by Floyds Thanks for the clarification.

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