1.1 moves to Predators in stunning move...

[Popes]

Originally Posted by Valencia

I have now lost a 1st round 2008 pick and the ability to clear cap space and may not be able to recover the loss in the upcomeing fix(I also have no leverage in the Manning - McNabb part of the trade).

The 1st round 2008 was added to compensate for not doing the Manning and McNabb part of the deal.

Brett, I can't say this for certain, but I don't think I looked at the 2008 1st round pick that way. It's hard to remember exactly, because we had so many rounds of negotiations, and I've had so many trades. But I know (and Brian could back me up, because I sought his opinion) that I considered Manning and McNabb essentially straight-up, given their contracts. I always viewed the loss of the Manning/McNabb aspect of the trade as more detrimental to you (due to your cap issues) than to me (I could have a great, but massively injury prone QB for $800 or a great and never injured QB for $1400 - pretty much a wash). I thought you added the 2008 1st round because I was tripping up over giving away all three of my 2007 1st rounders. I could be wrong...

[Valencia]

Originally Posted by Popes

Brett, I can't say this for certain, but I don't think I looked at the 2008 1st round pick that way. It's hard to remember exactly, because we had so many rounds of negotiations, and I've had so many trades. But I know (and Brian could back me up, because I sought his opinion) that I considered Manning and McNabb essentially straight-up, given their contracts. I always viewed the loss of the Manning/McNabb aspect of the trade as more detrimental to you (due to your cap issues) than to me (I could have a great, but massively injury prone QB for $800 or a great and never injured QB for $1400 - pretty much a wash). I thought you added the 2008 1st round because I was tripping up over giving away all three of my 2007 1st rounders. I could be wrong...

May well be... I tried to go back and look at our posts.. but, could not find them all.
I thought the deal was done and agreed to prior to the adding of my 2008 1st rounder... The only thing that changed that was the opposing views.. Although, as you say, we did have many posts in the negotiation process.
I could be wrong... It wouldn't be the 1st time.. And I am sure, won't be the last.
Although, this was the post put up after the trade:

Big trade (1.1) for Popes and Absolut
Popes send:
WR S.Moss (Wash) [1 year: 726]
2007 draft picks: 1.1, 1st round Portis comp, 2.5 [the comp pick should be around 1.20]

Absolut sends:
RB C.Benson (Chi) [3 years: 581/639/703]
TE V.Davis (SF) [4 years: 143/157/173/190]
2007 draft picks: 2.8, 3.8, 4.8
2008 draft pick: 1st round

The 1st round 2008 was added to compensate for not doing the Manning and McNabb part of the deal.

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[Flaxwless]

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

That's part of the problem, I don't have a fix off the top of my head. A harder deadline to work around, for instance week 1 of the regular season, would make it more of a disincentive than it is. Right now, in season free agency gives teams a couple of weeks to round out there roster and adjust the space that may be freed up from a deal like this. If we made it week 1, a team wouldn't have that leeway, and it would be harder to make a deal.

But that's just off the top of my head.

Honestly you're thinking way too much into this (but maybe thats why you write the rules).

I don't even know the league timing... so I would never have known or would it be in the back of my mind that I had a couple of weeks before the season to manage my roster.

Second, what difference is a couple of weeks? Honestly... the good FA will be gone by the time the RFA trade is completed as UFA period would have closed. It's hardly a factor I consider when making RFA deals.

Once and for all....

Are RFA trades against the intent of the rule - which is to curb RFA price fixing?

[Popes]

Originally Posted by Valencia

Although, this was the post put up after the trade:

Big trade (1.1) for Popes and Absolut
Popes send:
WR S.Moss (Wash) [1 year: 726]
2007 draft picks: 1.1, 1st round Portis comp, 2.5 [the comp pick should be around 1.20]

Absolut sends:
RB C.Benson (Chi) [3 years: 581/639/703]
TE V.Davis (SF) [4 years: 143/157/173/190]
2007 draft picks: 2.8, 3.8, 4.8
2008 draft pick: 1st round

The 1st round 2008 was added to compensate for not doing the Manning and McNabb part of the deal.

Late

When you say "put up", where (the underlined part, I mean)? I don't see that in the original thread: http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10692

[Cheezy]

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

Wow Preds...nice move on your part. With Gore and AP in your backfield, your team will have 2 cheap stud RB's for a long time!

Originally Posted by Dodgers

Hey Cheezy, it may have taken 3+ hours, but nice work. That deal really improves your team. Way to make the Jordan cap hit someone else's headache.

Originally Posted by Valencia

Dudes, like :jealous :newhere :idiot :growup :dammit :Bla :agree I love to use these things:hitit :bling :bling :bling


P.S. Cheezy got raped.

Late

64 posts following a huge trade for 1.1. I expected some of the above. Instead it's this crap. What fun...

[Preds]

Originally Posted by Cheezy

64 posts following a huge trade for 1.1. I expected some of the above. Instead it's this crap. What fun...

ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO

You have Brett down cold!

[Valencia]

Originally Posted by Preds

ROFLMAO ROFLMAO ROFLMAO

You have Brett down cold!

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... Dudes.. :nobodycar :stfu :tool

BTW... Love the post Cheezy..

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[Valencia]

never mind

[Burt the Butcher]

Originally Posted by Cheezy

64 posts following a huge trade for 1.1. I expected some of the above. Instead it's this crap. What fun...

Good stuff!! I read the first part, and was thinking, "WHAT? I never posted that. Why would I compliment Preds on anything?"