4.02 Harry Douglas WR

Shader · May 20th, 2008, 02:07 AM

Tough, tough decision. Hardest one of the draft for me so far.

Falcons GM thinks he can be a faster Wes Welker.

While that might be a stretch, hey it's the 4th round and Atlanta has crappy wide receivers so I imagine he'll get PT pretty quickly.

benm3218 · May 20th, 2008, 09:17 AM

He wont make the team...

PencilGeeks · May 20th, 2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

He wont make the team...

Well.. that is a little pessimistic! I don't know how much of an impact he will have this year, but seriously? You don't think he will even make the final roster?!

benm3218 · May 20th, 2008, 11:25 AM

small guy and poor routes...

Roddy White
Laurent Robinson
Joe Horn (for now)
Michael Jenkins

He may make the team, but he will not play this yr. And for all Shaders bragging about knowing good players I don't, I know that the knock on Douglas was poor route running and that is Welkers specialty.

So to say that a small little receiver will excel like Welker is rediculous when he has to beat out 4 good receivers. Even if Horn leaves a rookie isnt going to beat out those other guys in my opinion.

Shader wasted a pick.

Shader · May 20th, 2008, 12:00 PM

Ben the knock on him is not poor route running. That is one of his strengths.

Saying he won't make the team shows that you really pulled that analysis from your backside.

He'll be starting in the slot within two years.

And I doubt you're going to find alot of guys in the 4th round who are going to put up big numbers this year, so it's all about 2-3 years down the road.

Just follow me Ben, I'll show you how to take a crappy team to the championship. Enjoy the ride.

PencilGeeks · May 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM

Nice! Super-trash talk I love it! But, Ben, you kind of prove my point:

Roddy White - Chronic under-achiever who FINALLY flashed a little ability last year but so what?
Laurent Robinson - Okay, you have to like this guys talent. He has a good chance to start this year.
Joe Horn (for now) - Too old, too slow and asked to be traded!? Smell the coffee cuz that is sooo 5 years ago. He is cut.
Michael Jenkins - All around PoS with hands like CONCRETE. How is this guys still drawing a paycheck?!

The fact that the Falcons won't be running many 3 WR sets under new offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey hurts Douglas' chance for immediate production more than his competition!! Having said that, he WILL make the team and has a chance to develop over the next couple of years but since he wasn't on my draft list (and I am assuming he wasn't on yours either), we should be thanking Shader for 'wasting' his pick! ;)

Flaxwless · May 20th, 2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeeks

Nice! Super-trash talk I love it! But, Ben, you kind of prove my point:

Roddy White - Chronic under-achiever who FINALLY flashed a little ability last year but so what?
Laurent Robinson - Okay, you have to like this guys talent. He has a good chance to start this year.
Joe Horn (for now) - Too old, too slow and asked to be traded!? Smell the coffee cuz that is sooo 5 years ago. He is cut.
Michael Jenkins - All around PoS with hands like CONCRETE. How is this guys still drawing a paycheck?!

The fact that the Falcons won't be running many 3 WR sets under new offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey hurts Douglas' chance for immediate production more than his competition!! Having said that, he WILL make the team and has a chance to develop over the next couple of years but since he wasn't on my draft list (and I am assuming he wasn't on yours either), we should be thanking Shader for 'wasting' his pick! ;)

White finally succeeded b/c they don't have Vick at QB anymore.

pacificscrub · May 20th, 2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaxwless

White finally succeeded b/c they don't have Vick at QB anymore.

Amen brother

pacificscrub · May 20th, 2008, 02:26 PM

Interesting Ben. I'm not saying Harry's going to be as good as Wes Welker, but here's what I just read about Douglas today:

5/19: Look for rookie WR Harry Douglas to make an immediate impact as a slot receiver in 2008. Douglas possesses tremendous quickness and burst, he's a superb route-runner, and he excels at gaining separation downfield. He'll give the Falcons another threat alongside projected starters WR Roddy White and WR Laurent Robinson.

Where are you getting your info from?

Shader · May 21st, 2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pacificscrub

Interesting Ben. I'm not saying Harry's going to be as good as Wes Welker, but here's what I just read about Douglas today:

5/19: Look for rookie WR Harry Douglas to make an immediate impact as a slot receiver in 2008. Douglas possesses tremendous quickness and burst, he's a superb route-runner, and he excels at gaining separation downfield. He'll give the Falcons another threat alongside projected starters WR Roddy White and WR Laurent Robinson.

Where are you getting your info from?

He makes it up on the spot

Burt the Butcher · May 21st, 2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shader

He makes it up on the spot

OMG!! Welcome to Ben and Ryan. You guys are taking trash talking to a new level!! Love it!

benm3218 · May 21st, 2008, 03:14 PM

I just saw Ryno picked him and I knew a few things:

Guy is most likely trash.
Guy is a horrible player ie. poor route running
Guy will most likely not make the team.

joke

I get a lot of wear and tear out footballguys.com and this was the pre draft analysis:

"74 - Harry Douglas - WR - Louisville
I'm not sure what to make of Douglas. He's tough over the middle for a tiny WR, and he seems to have legit field pad speed no matter what his timed speed registered at. Still, he's not a crisp route runner, and is not a shifty dependable slot WR type. I'm afraid he has too much of the game of a wideout in a body better suited for a 3rd or 4th WR, and he doesn't have great return skills either - so I'm not sure how he will win a long term job except a stretch the D guy in 4 wide sets."

This was the after the draft commentary:

"72. Harry Douglas - WR - Atlanta

Is Bobby Petrino still coaching this team? A too small WR who doesn't run crisp routes in the third?"

So, while I enjoy bashing my pal Ryno, I do think that some scouts have doubts about his ability.

See ya.

Shader · May 21st, 2008, 03:26 PM

Are those scouts? Or ignorant posters that you're copying. I'll go with the latter.

benm3218 · May 21st, 2008, 03:59 PM

Staff? Scouts? Not posters... they visit the combine and the scouting sessions.

Burt the Butcher · May 21st, 2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

I get a lot of wear and tear out footballguys.com

So we can continue to expect to thrash you in the draft! Another FBG

Sweet!!

May 20th, 2008, 02:07 AM	#1
Shader General Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fayetteville, TN Posts: 358	4.02 Harry Douglas WR Tough, tough decision. Hardest one of the draft for me so far. Falcons GM thinks he can be a faster Wes Welker. While that might be a stretch, hey it's the 4th round and Atlanta has crappy wide receivers so I imagine he'll get PT pretty quickly.

May 20th, 2008, 09:17 AM	#2
benm3218 General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 276	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR He wont make the team...

May 20th, 2008, 11:25 AM	#4
benm3218 General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 276	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR small guy and poor routes... Roddy White Laurent Robinson Joe Horn (for now) Michael Jenkins He may make the team, but he will not play this yr. And for all Shaders bragging about knowing good players I don't, I know that the knock on Douglas was poor route running and that is Welkers specialty. So to say that a small little receiver will excel like Welker is rediculous when he has to beat out 4 good receivers. Even if Horn leaves a rookie isnt going to beat out those other guys in my opinion. Shader wasted a pick.

May 20th, 2008, 12:00 PM	#5
Shader General Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fayetteville, TN Posts: 358	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR Ben the knock on him is not poor route running. That is one of his strengths. Saying he won't make the team shows that you really pulled that analysis from your backside. He'll be starting in the slot within two years. And I doubt you're going to find alot of guys in the 4th round who are going to put up big numbers this year, so it's all about 2-3 years down the road. Just follow me Ben, I'll show you how to take a crappy team to the championship. Enjoy the ride.

May 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM	#6
PencilGeeks General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,325	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR Nice! Super-trash talk I love it! But, Ben, you kind of prove my point: Roddy White - Chronic under-achiever who FINALLY flashed a little ability last year but so what? Laurent Robinson - Okay, you have to like this guys talent. He has a good chance to start this year. Joe Horn (for now) - Too old, too slow and asked to be traded!? Smell the coffee cuz that is sooo 5 years ago. He is cut. Michael Jenkins - All around PoS with hands like CONCRETE. How is this guys still drawing a paycheck?! The fact that the Falcons won't be running many 3 WR sets under new offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey hurts Douglas' chance for immediate production more than his competition!! Having said that, he WILL make the team and has a chance to develop over the next couple of years but since he wasn't on my draft list (and I am assuming he wasn't on yours either), we should be thanking Shader for 'wasting' his pick! ;) __________________ Hans Sorensen PencilGeeks "They got exits covered. All the exits underground. I wish I could figure it out. But the world's upside down" - Foals

May 20th, 2008, 02:26 PM	#9
pacificscrub SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,488	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR Interesting Ben. I'm not saying Harry's going to be as good as Wes Welker, but here's what I just read about Douglas today: 5/19: Look for rookie WR Harry Douglas to make an immediate impact as a slot receiver in 2008. Douglas possesses tremendous quickness and burst, he's a superb route-runner, and he excels at gaining separation downfield. He'll give the Falcons another threat alongside projected starters WR Roddy White and WR Laurent Robinson. Where are you getting your info from? Last edited by pacificscrub; May 20th, 2008 at 02:30 PM. Reason: cut and paste didn't work properly

May 21st, 2008, 03:14 PM	#12
benm3218 General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 276	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR I just saw Ryno picked him and I knew a few things: Guy is most likely trash. Guy is a horrible player ie. poor route running Guy will most likely not make the team. joke I get a lot of wear and tear out footballguys.com and this was the pre draft analysis: "74 - Harry Douglas - WR - Louisville I'm not sure what to make of Douglas. He's tough over the middle for a tiny WR, and he seems to have legit field pad speed no matter what his timed speed registered at. Still, he's not a crisp route runner, and is not a shifty dependable slot WR type. I'm afraid he has too much of the game of a wideout in a body better suited for a 3rd or 4th WR, and he doesn't have great return skills either - so I'm not sure how he will win a long term job except a stretch the D guy in 4 wide sets." This was the after the draft commentary: "72. Harry Douglas - WR - Atlanta Is Bobby Petrino still coaching this team? A too small WR who doesn't run crisp routes in the third?" So, while I enjoy bashing my pal Ryno, I do think that some scouts have doubts about his ability. See ya.

May 21st, 2008, 03:26 PM	#13
Shader General Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fayetteville, TN Posts: 358	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR Are those scouts? Or ignorant posters that you're copying. I'll go with the latter.

May 21st, 2008, 03:59 PM	#14
benm3218 General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 276	Re: 4.02 Harry Douglas WR Staff? Scouts? Not posters... they visit the combine and the scouting sessions.

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