2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary - Page 4

Burt the Butcher · April 8th, 2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

Rolling on the Floor Laughing My Ass Off

You DO realize I was kidding right?

f'n noobs

Dam!! I thought he was serious...

Flaxwless · April 9th, 2008, 11:28 PM

WOW!!!

6650 for LT!!!

Are you guys expecting another record breaking year from LT?

At his price right now I can rationalize it a bit, but if he breaks 7k....

Flaxwless · April 9th, 2008, 11:30 PM

Also 3k for Julius Jones.... someone in a for sure RBBC with Shuan Alexander, Mo Morris, and TJ Duckett?

And I get flack for calling Jamal Lewis a steal at 3500?

LT - 6650
Portis - 5000
Lewis - 3500
J. Jones - 3000

Crazy.

pacificscrub · April 10th, 2008, 12:16 AM

Yes you do. Alexander is certain to be released after June 1, so he's out of the picture. If you think Duckett is going to get as many carries as Barber did in Dallas, you're clueless and I'd be willing to bet that even if you add in Morris' carries as well, they still won't add up to the carries Barber stole. Combine that with the probability that unlike Dallas, Seattle will actually utilize JJ's pass catching ability out of the backfield and I think he'll be well worth the 3000 that that gunky Needles matched on the guy I wanted.

As far as LT goes, you're acting like the price paid for top performers always reflects the same point per dollar spent on players across the board. That's never the case. Just because his price is double Jamal's doesn't mean we think he's going to score twice as much. Is the potential there to do just that? You bet, but I'm certainly not banking on it. Of course it doesn't hurt that we've got 12K in cap space that's going to go to waste if we don't bid guys up enough to make them cost prohibitive to their current owners.

Flaxwless · April 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pacificscrub

Yes you do. Alexander is certain to be released after June 1, so he's out of the picture. If you think Duckett is going to get as many carries as Barber did in Dallas, you're clueless and I'd be willing to bet that even if you add in Morris' carries as well, they still won't add up to the carries Barber stole. Combine that with the probability that unlike Dallas, Seattle will actually utilize JJ's pass catching ability out of the backfield and I think he'll be well worth the 3000 that that gunky Needles matched on the guy I wanted.

As far as LT goes, you're acting like the price paid for top performers always reflects the same point per dollar spent on players across the board. That's never the case. Just because his price is double Jamal's doesn't mean we think he's going to score twice as much. Is the potential there to do just that? You bet, but I'm certainly not banking on it. Of course it doesn't hurt that we've got 12K in cap space that's going to go to waste if we don't bid guys up enough to make them cost prohibitive to their current owners.

I know he's not going to score twice as much... so why spend twice as much?

In the end the bidding on LT is good for me, especially if Portis is matched. Either Burt retains LT and right now has 400 less than last year to work with or he lets LT go and has no one near his ability to replace him.

I'm just enjoying watching LT get bid up like crazy!!

benm3218 · April 10th, 2008, 12:28 PM

Portis is not worth the money. Wow.

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

Portis is not worth the money. Wow.

It's all relative. If you have mega cap space because you have a lot of value on your squad, you can afford to overpay for a player of need. I think prety much all of the players out there are overpriced.....some of them WAY overpriced (1/3 of your cap for one player? holy sheet)!! Everyone thought I was nuts last year to pay 70% salary cap to 4 players, but since they all stayed healthy and played to the level I needed them to, I won the championship. Getting lucky with a couple 100cb players helps too. But like I said, it's all relative to the sit-chee-a-shun.....

benm3218 · April 10th, 2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

It's all relative. If you have mega cap space because you have a lot of value on your squad, you can afford to overpay for a player of need. I think prety much all of the players out there are overpriced.....some of them WAY overpriced (1/3 of your cap for one player? holy sheet)!! Everyone thought I was nuts last year to pay 70% salary cap to 4 players, but since they all stayed healthy and played to the level I needed them to, I won the championship. Getting lucky with a couple 100cb players helps too. But like I said, it's all relative to the sit-chee-a-shun.....

i guess that says it all... I need some help with strategy on this and I dont think i trust you guys to provide it unbiased. lol

what to do...

Preds · April 10th, 2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

i guess that says it all... I need some help with strategy on this and I dont think i trust you guys to provide it unbiased. lol

what to do...

IMO LT is work 7500 EASY

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

IMO LT is work 7500 EASY

Preds you are such a

,

because you know you are a

who loves to

and just cause trouble. No one takes you serious because you are a

waiting to happen. AND that's why we love you so much!!!

Preds · April 10th, 2008, 01:14 PM

The noobs were supposed to take the bait, not you

PS Brett would be very proud of you for the way you told a story with the smilies. ;)

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

i guess that says it all... I need some help with strategy on this and I dont think i trust you guys to provide it unbiased. lol

what to do...

Just like learning to ride a bike with the bullies on the block helping you out...you'll get lots of scrapes and bruises, but you'll learn along the way....

Now what were you looking to get help with?

benm3218 · April 10th, 2008, 01:49 PM

This is like asking an alligator to help you across the river...

Based on the poor quality and suckitudeness of my team, would it make more sense to avoid free agents this year and just draft well to build low price value? I mean I am not going to challenge for the championship this year anyways. So, if I continued to drive prices up but didnt really win anyone could that actually work out better for me?

The real value in this league is smart drafting with good price value and then a few HIGH priced guys to put you over the top. Right?

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benm3218

This is like asking an alligator to help you across the river...

Based on the poor quality and suckitudeness of my team, would it make more sense to avoid free agents this year and just draft well to build low price value? I mean I am not going to challenge for the championship this year anyways. So, if I continued to drive prices up but didnt really win anyone could that actually work out better for me?

The real value in this league is smart drafting with good price value and then a few HIGH priced guys to put you over the top. Right?

Yes

benm3218 · April 10th, 2008, 02:35 PM

Cool. I do want a few players if I can get them for the right price, but I am not going to go crazy.

I have Housh ranked above CJ... It seems I must be the only one.

Preds · April 10th, 2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benm3218

This is like asking an alligator to help you across the river...

Based on the poor quality and suckitudeness of my team, would it make more sense to avoid free agents this year and just draft well to build low price value? I mean I am not going to challenge for the championship this year anyways. So, if I continued to drive prices up but didnt really win anyone could that actually work out better for me?

The real value in this league is smart drafting with good price value and then a few HIGH priced guys to put you over the top. Right?

Wrong

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

Wrong

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

Cool. I do want a few players if I can get them for the right price, but I am not going to go crazy.
I have Housh ranked above CJ... It seems I must be the only one.

Don't be so sure.....only 3 players have sold in a week and a half and I assure you, Whoseyourdaddy's time on the blocks is far from over....

Nittany Dodgers · April 10th, 2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

So you just agreed and disagreed with benm's posting?

And for all the n00bs looking for where to go for advice, just check out the SAC'D greatness below. That's right...keep looking.

Preds · April 10th, 2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

So you just agreed and disagreed with benm's posting?

And for all the n00bs looking for where to go for advice, just check out the SAC'D greatness below. That's right...keep looking.

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

So you just agreed and disagreed with benm's posting?

No, I agreed with both Ben's posting, and Pred's posting....

benm3218 · April 10th, 2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

No, I agreed with both Ben's posting, and Pred's posting....

Noob is confused...

Preds · April 10th, 2008, 03:30 PM

here fishy fishy

benm3218 · April 10th, 2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

here fishy fishy

Preds · April 10th, 2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

sorry,

was edging me on via IM

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

sorry,

was edging me on via IM

.....who me?

Liquid Swords · April 10th, 2008, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benm3218

This is like asking an alligator to help you across the river...

Based on the poor quality and suckitudeness of my team, would it make more sense to avoid free agents this year and just draft well to build low price value? I mean I am not going to challenge for the championship this year anyways. So, if I continued to drive prices up but didnt really win anyone could that actually work out better for me?

The real value in this league is smart drafting with good price value and then a few HIGH priced guys to put you over the top. Right?

Here's some advice:

Bid up players that would put you in cap hell even if you win just a fraction of them. Then start dumping the young talent to make room, take a few cap hits on infractions, and voila...you can challenge for a championship this year! Who cares about building for the future...just ask Brian...it doesn't work.

Hmmm...maybe I shoud heed my own advice or maybe just lay off the

benm3218 · April 10th, 2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

.....who me?

^^ no reason... I just like that one. I am out for a bit. Thanks for all the help!

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by benm3218

^^ no reason... I just like that one. I am out for a bit. Thanks for all the help!

Any time...glad to be of service....

Burt the Butcher · April 10th, 2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

Here's some advice:

Bid up players that would put you in cap hell even if you win just a fraction of them. Then start dumping the young talent to make room, take a few cap hits on infractions, and voila...you can challenge for a championship this year! Who cares about building for the future...just ask Brian...it doesn't work.

Hmmm...maybe I shoud heed my own advice or maybe just lay off the

Worked for me last year....

April 9th, 2008, 11:28 PM	#92
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary WOW!!! 6650 for LT!!! Are you guys expecting another record breaking year from LT? At his price right now I can rationalize it a bit, but if he breaks 7k.... __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

April 9th, 2008, 11:30 PM	#93
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary Also 3k for Julius Jones.... someone in a for sure RBBC with Shuan Alexander, Mo Morris, and TJ Duckett? And I get flack for calling Jamal Lewis a steal at 3500? LT - 6650 Portis - 5000 Lewis - 3500 J. Jones - 3000 Crazy. __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

April 10th, 2008, 12:16 AM	#94
pacificscrub SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,488	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary Yes you do. Alexander is certain to be released after June 1, so he's out of the picture. If you think Duckett is going to get as many carries as Barber did in Dallas, you're clueless and I'd be willing to bet that even if you add in Morris' carries as well, they still won't add up to the carries Barber stole. Combine that with the probability that unlike Dallas, Seattle will actually utilize JJ's pass catching ability out of the backfield and I think he'll be well worth the 3000 that that gunky Needles matched on the guy I wanted. As far as LT goes, you're acting like the price paid for top performers always reflects the same point per dollar spent on players across the board. That's never the case. Just because his price is double Jamal's doesn't mean we think he's going to score twice as much. Is the potential there to do just that? You bet, but I'm certainly not banking on it. Of course it doesn't hurt that we've got 12K in cap space that's going to go to waste if we don't bid guys up enough to make them cost prohibitive to their current owners.

April 10th, 2008, 12:28 PM	#96
benm3218 General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 276	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary Portis is not worth the money. Wow.

April 10th, 2008, 01:14 PM	#101
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary The noobs were supposed to take the bait, not you PS Brett would be very proud of you for the way you told a story with the smilies. ;) __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

April 10th, 2008, 01:49 PM	#103
benm3218 General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 276	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary This is like asking an alligator to help you across the river... Based on the poor quality and suckitudeness of my team, would it make more sense to avoid free agents this year and just draft well to build low price value? I mean I am not going to challenge for the championship this year anyways. So, if I continued to drive prices up but didnt really win anyone could that actually work out better for me? The real value in this league is smart drafting with good price value and then a few HIGH priced guys to put you over the top. Right?

April 10th, 2008, 02:35 PM	#105
benm3218 General Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville Posts: 276	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary Cool. I do want a few players if I can get them for the right price, but I am not going to go crazy. I have Housh ranked above CJ... It seems I must be the only one.

April 10th, 2008, 03:30 PM	#113
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: 2008 SAC'd RFA Commentary here fishy fishy __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

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