2011 Playoffs

Burt the Butcher · December 2nd, 2011, 11:02 AM

OK, well, it will be exciting end to the Season in SAC'd. It looks like only teams who have guaranteed slot in playoff are Guns and Mutts, with Gunslingers secure in #1 slot, and Mutts secure in #2 slot.

I must say, it is impressive the turnaround John accomplished with the Mutts team!! Well done John!!

I should have done this before games started last night....I can't really tell who is still in the hunt for final 4 spots, but it looks like they may all come from the Reggie White Memorial division in the Tommyknockers, Bloodsuckers and Floyds. I believe I have the inside track at the division title, by my H2H with Tommy, and my Division record over Blood...

Good luck to all this weekend and we'll see what washes out by Monday evening...

Liquid Swords · December 2nd, 2011, 11:43 AM

We don't have #6 spot going to Power Rankings in SAC'D do we? If we did it looks like my losing record would probably get in. It's been a rough year for the defending champs.

Burt the Butcher · December 2nd, 2011, 11:53 AM

No we don't..you can bring it up in off season though...I think it is good rule...

Would be a shame too if my suckass team makes it....

Liquid Swords · December 2nd, 2011, 12:32 PM

I like the rule and probably will. I'm going to end up with a 5-9 or 6-8 record and likely a top 6 PR and top 5 points scored. Unfortunately I've had 2nd most point scored against me to date. Amazingly I could end up with the #2 draft pick.

Tommyknockers is a mystery though with an 8-5 record despite having over 250 more points scored against them than points scored.

Burt the Butcher · December 2nd, 2011, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

Tommyknockers is a mystery though with an 8-5 record despite having over 250 more points scored against them than points scored.

Especially since I beat them twice...Twilight Zone...

bigmash33 · December 2nd, 2011, 02:05 PM

Let me know if I'm wrong but I believe the only other teams alive are the TommyKnockers (8-5), Floyds (7-6), Bloodsuckers (7-6), Mashers (7-6) and Bounty Hunters (6-7) for the final 4 spots...everyone else had 5 or less wins.

The TommyKnockers are in the playoffs...it just depends if they get the division or a wild card. If they win they get the division. If they lose (which means Bloodsuckers win), and the Floyds lose, the Bloodsuckers get the division by most overall pts. If they lose and the Floyds win, the Floyds get the division by best H2H record of the three teams.

The only way that I would miss the playoffs is if I lose and I were in a 3-way tie with the Bloodsuckers and Bounty Hunters and the Bloodsuckers outscored me by 40 pts and the Hunters outscored me by 160 pts as we all have a 1-1 H2H, so it goes to total pts.

bigmash33 · December 2nd, 2011, 02:20 PM

The Bloodsuckers are in with a win either division or wild card as described above.

If they lose, and the Floyds, Mashers and Hunters win, they would be out as they would lose the H2H vs the Hunters.

If it's a 3-way tie between the Bloodsuckers, Mashers and Hunters, the Hunters would have to outscore the Bloodsuckers by more than 120 pts to take the final WC spot.

If it's a 3-way tie between the Bloodsuckers, Floyds and Hunters, the Floyds would have to outscore the Bloodsuckers by 275 to take the final WC spot.

The Floyds are in with a win and would win the division with a win and a TommyKnocker loss.

If they lose, and the Bloodsuckers, Mashers and Hunters win, they would be out as they would lose the H2H vs the Hunters.

If it's a 3-way tie with the Floyds, Mashers and Hunters, the Floyds would be out as they would lose the combined H2H to both the Mashers and Hunters.

If it's a 4-way tie with the Floyds, Bloodsuckers, Mashers and Hunters, the Floyds would be out as they would lose the combined H2H. Mashers: 2-1, Hunters: 2-1, Bloodsuckers: 2-2, Floyds: 1-3.

Let me know if you see mistakes or if I missed a scenario. There are a lot of possible options.

Bounty Hunter · December 2nd, 2011, 03:48 PM

if I figured correctly Hunter are in with a win and a Floyds loss and a Bloodsuckers loss.

I'm sure that was covered in the above post.

Burt the Butcher · December 5th, 2011, 06:57 PM

So if the scores hold out, it looks like the following scenario:

Seeds Team
1 Gunslingers
2 Hell Mutts
3 Tommyknockers
4 Mashers
5 Floyds
6 Hunters

Flaxwless · December 5th, 2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

So if the scores hold out, it looks like the following scenario:

Seeds Team
1 Gunslingers
2 Hell Mutts
3 Tommyknockers
4 Mashers
5 Floyds
6 Hunters

Why do the Hunters get in over me?

Doesn't the 6th spot go to power rankings? I'm currently ahead of Hunters unless it drastically changes after tonight.

Burt the Butcher · December 5th, 2011, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaxwless

Why do the Hunters get in over me?

Doesn't the 6th spot go to power rankings? I'm currently ahead of Hunters unless it drastically changes after tonight.

That rule passed this year in Frenzy....no one proposed it in SAC'd. You both have same record, and Hunters beat you in your only H2H match up.

Flaxwless · December 5th, 2011, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

That rule passed this year in Frenzy....no one proposed it in SAC'd. You both have same record, and Hunters beat you in your only H2H match up.

Darnit.

Do we have a Toilet Bowl in SACD or is that Frenzy only too?

Scorpions · December 6th, 2011, 12:26 AM

Only frenzy has that toilet bowl.

Burt the Butcher · December 6th, 2011, 08:30 AM

Well, with the Clowns come from behind victory over Mashers, that puts Mashers, Bloodsuckers and Hunters in a three way tie for the last two WC spots.

All three beat each other for exact 1-1 H2H records.
Hunters and Bloodsuckers each had 3-3 DIV records - Mashers were 2-4.

Thus Hunters and Bloodsuckers are in, Mashers out (I guess this was a missed scenario above?)

So the seedings are:
Seeds Team
1 Gunslingers
2 Hell Mutts
3 Tommyknockers
4 Floyds
5 Bloodsuckers
6 Hunters

Liquid Swords · December 6th, 2011, 09:17 AM

Division records only apply to those in the same division, thus it comes down to total points scored.

Hunters - 2240.00
Mashers - 2385.75
Bloodsuckers - 2357.85

So Mashers and Bloodsuckers are in and Hunters are out.

Bloodsuckers get the #5 seed and Mashers get the #6 seed as Bloodsuckers won the H2H matchup in the regular season.

From Rules:
The Leagues tie-breaking system for play-off qualification and seeding is as follows:
1. Head-to-head record
2. Division Record (between teams from the same division)
3. Total Overall Points
4. Coin Toss

Burt the Butcher · December 6th, 2011, 09:49 AM

Oops...missed that section in parens....sorry Scott...and sorry Bobby!!

I need to change the seedings..I guess the autoseeding option does not take that into account..thanks Patrick

bigmash33 · December 6th, 2011, 10:13 AM

Ok, I was a bit confused as I understood it as Patrick posted above. So I get Brees and Gronk...great. At least I dodge Matt Forte.

I would say the parity was pretty good this year as 8 of the 12 teams finished between 6 and 9 wins.

Burt the Butcher · December 6th, 2011, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmash33

I would say the parity was pretty good this year as 8 of the 12 teams finished between 6 and 9 wins.

For sure...for my sucky team (#8 in Power Rankings) to not only make the playoffs, but to have a shot at Division title in last week, and to end up #4 seed is proof of that for sure!!

Good luck to all...I do not hold out much hope to advance, but my luck has held out for 5 straight so who knows..

Flaxwless · December 6th, 2011, 12:39 PM

Woooooooo!

Bounty Hunter · December 8th, 2011, 07:47 PM

Just noticed today, MFL shows Hunters as #6 seed.

Miners · December 8th, 2011, 09:05 PM

So should we be playing the Hunters as MFL has it or the Mashers???

bigmash33 · December 8th, 2011, 09:11 PM

Yeah, when did that change? Earlier this week I was the 6th seed. I believe I'm still the 6th seed.

Burt the Butcher · December 9th, 2011, 08:37 AM

Sorry..it should be correct now...

Philadelphia Freedom · December 17th, 2011, 08:03 PM

Does this still apply:

12F. Home Field Advantage

The higher seed in the 1st round of the playoffs will have 7 points added to their score as a home field advantage. There will be no home field advantage in the championship game since that is considered to take place at a neutral site.

This is from the Rules section of the MFL site. Not sure if it still applies since it only mentions Round 1.

Burt the Butcher · December 19th, 2011, 01:22 PM

this was eliminated years ago:

http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8988

I guess it was never removed from the Rulebook...

Burt the Butcher · December 19th, 2011, 01:23 PM

Looks like it is going to be an all Reggie White division SAC'd Bowl!! Well done Frank and Brandon!! good luck to you both!!

Philadelphia Freedom · December 19th, 2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

this was eliminated years ago:

http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8988

I guess it was never removed from the Rulebook...

Would not have mattered as my team did not get it done. Good luck Frank.

emerald · December 19th, 2011, 01:52 PM

Wouldn't have helped me near enough with my selected starters either...

Take him down Brandon!!!

Flaxwless · December 19th, 2011, 03:16 PM

Woooooooooooo!

bigmash33 · December 19th, 2011, 06:50 PM

Good luck in the finals guys.

It's funny how that a matchup that didn't even involve Frank helped him get in the playoffs. He was on the outside looking in until Rivers and VJax had a huge game on MNF to lead the Clowns over me in the last week which dropped me to a three way tie with Frank and Bobby and got Frank in....where if it was just Frank and Bobby tied, Bobby would have been in.

FF has weird luck sometimes....

December 2nd, 2011, 11:53 AM	#3
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2011 Playoffs No we don't..you can bring it up in off season though...I think it is good rule... Would be a shame too if my suckass team makes it.... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT--- Last edited by Burt the Butcher; December 2nd, 2011 at 12:15 PM.

December 2nd, 2011, 02:20 PM	#7
bigmash33 SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,767	Re: 2011 Playoffs The Bloodsuckers are in with a win either division or wild card as described above. If they lose, and the Floyds, Mashers and Hunters win, they would be out as they would lose the H2H vs the Hunters. If it's a 3-way tie between the Bloodsuckers, Mashers and Hunters, the Hunters would have to outscore the Bloodsuckers by more than 120 pts to take the final WC spot. If it's a 3-way tie between the Bloodsuckers, Floyds and Hunters, the Floyds would have to outscore the Bloodsuckers by 275 to take the final WC spot. The Floyds are in with a win and would win the division with a win and a TommyKnocker loss. If they lose, and the Bloodsuckers, Mashers and Hunters win, they would be out as they would lose the H2H vs the Hunters. If it's a 3-way tie with the Floyds, Mashers and Hunters, the Floyds would be out as they would lose the combined H2H to both the Mashers and Hunters. If it's a 4-way tie with the Floyds, Bloodsuckers, Mashers and Hunters, the Floyds would be out as they would lose the combined H2H. Mashers: 2-1, Hunters: 2-1, Bloodsuckers: 2-2, Floyds: 1-3. Let me know if you see mistakes or if I missed a scenario. There are a lot of possible options.

December 5th, 2011, 06:57 PM	#9
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2011 Playoffs So if the scores hold out, it looks like the following scenario: Seeds Team 1 Gunslingers 2 Hell Mutts 3 Tommyknockers 4 Mashers 5 Floyds 6 Hunters __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 6th, 2011, 12:26 AM	#13
Scorpions Administrator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 6,746	Re: 2011 Playoffs Only frenzy has that toilet bowl.

December 6th, 2011, 08:30 AM	#14
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2011 Playoffs Well, with the Clowns come from behind victory over Mashers, that puts Mashers, Bloodsuckers and Hunters in a three way tie for the last two WC spots. All three beat each other for exact 1-1 H2H records. Hunters and Bloodsuckers each had 3-3 DIV records - Mashers were 2-4. Thus Hunters and Bloodsuckers are in, Mashers out (I guess this was a missed scenario above?) So the seedings are: Seeds Team 1 Gunslingers 2 Hell Mutts 3 Tommyknockers 4 Floyds 5 Bloodsuckers 6 Hunters __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT--- Last edited by Burt the Butcher; December 6th, 2011 at 08:37 AM.

December 2nd, 2011, 11:02 AM	#1
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	2011 Playoffs OK, well, it will be exciting end to the Season in SAC'd. It looks like only teams who have guaranteed slot in playoff are Guns and Mutts, with Gunslingers secure in #1 slot, and Mutts secure in #2 slot. I must say, it is impressive the turnaround John accomplished with the Mutts team!! Well done John!! I should have done this before games started last night....I can't really tell who is still in the hunt for final 4 spots, but it looks like they may all come from the Reggie White Memorial division in the Tommyknockers, Bloodsuckers and Floyds. I believe I have the inside track at the division title, by my H2H with Tommy, and my Division record over Blood... Good luck to all this weekend and we'll see what washes out by Monday evening... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 2nd, 2011, 11:43 AM	#2
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: 2011 Playoffs We don't have #6 spot going to Power Rankings in SAC'D do we? If we did it looks like my losing record would probably get in. It's been a rough year for the defending champs.

December 2nd, 2011, 12:32 PM	#4
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: 2011 Playoffs I like the rule and probably will. I'm going to end up with a 5-9 or 6-8 record and likely a top 6 PR and top 5 points scored. Unfortunately I've had 2nd most point scored against me to date. Amazingly I could end up with the #2 draft pick. Tommyknockers is a mystery though with an 8-5 record despite having over 250 more points scored against them than points scored. Last edited by Liquid Swords; December 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 PM.

December 2nd, 2011, 02:05 PM	#6
bigmash33 SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,767	Re: 2011 Playoffs Let me know if I'm wrong but I believe the only other teams alive are the TommyKnockers (8-5), Floyds (7-6), Bloodsuckers (7-6), Mashers (7-6) and Bounty Hunters (6-7) for the final 4 spots...everyone else had 5 or less wins. The TommyKnockers are in the playoffs...it just depends if they get the division or a wild card. If they win they get the division. If they lose (which means Bloodsuckers win), and the Floyds lose, the Bloodsuckers get the division by most overall pts. If they lose and the Floyds win, the Floyds get the division by best H2H record of the three teams. The only way that I would miss the playoffs is if I lose and I were in a 3-way tie with the Bloodsuckers and Bounty Hunters and the Bloodsuckers outscored me by 40 pts and the Hunters outscored me by 160 pts as we all have a 1-1 H2H, so it goes to total pts.

December 2nd, 2011, 03:48 PM	#8
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: 2011 Playoffs if I figured correctly Hunter are in with a win and a Floyds loss and a Bloodsuckers loss. I'm sure that was covered in the above post.

December 6th, 2011, 09:17 AM	#15
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: 2011 Playoffs Division records only apply to those in the same division, thus it comes down to total points scored. Hunters - 2240.00 Mashers - 2385.75 Bloodsuckers - 2357.85 So Mashers and Bloodsuckers are in and Hunters are out. Bloodsuckers get the #5 seed and Mashers get the #6 seed as Bloodsuckers won the H2H matchup in the regular season. From Rules: The Leagues tie-breaking system for play-off qualification and seeding is as follows: 1. Head-to-head record 2. Division Record (between teams from the same division) 3. Total Overall Points 4. Coin Toss

December 6th, 2011, 09:49 AM	#16
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2011 Playoffs Oops...missed that section in parens....sorry Scott...and sorry Bobby!! I need to change the seedings..I guess the autoseeding option does not take that into account..thanks Patrick __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 6th, 2011, 10:13 AM	#17
bigmash33 SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,767	Re: 2011 Playoffs Ok, I was a bit confused as I understood it as Patrick posted above. So I get Brees and Gronk...great. At least I dodge Matt Forte. I would say the parity was pretty good this year as 8 of the 12 teams finished between 6 and 9 wins.

December 6th, 2011, 12:39 PM	#19
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: 2011 Playoffs Woooooooo! __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

December 8th, 2011, 07:47 PM	#20
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: 2011 Playoffs Just noticed today, MFL shows Hunters as #6 seed.

December 8th, 2011, 09:05 PM	#21
Miners SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,576	Re: 2011 Playoffs So should we be playing the Hunters as MFL has it or the Mashers???

December 8th, 2011, 09:11 PM	#22
bigmash33 SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,767	Re: 2011 Playoffs Yeah, when did that change? Earlier this week I was the 6th seed. I believe I'm still the 6th seed.

December 9th, 2011, 08:37 AM	#23
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2011 Playoffs Sorry..it should be correct now... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 17th, 2011, 08:03 PM	#24
Philadelphia Freedom Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 6,270	Re: 2011 Playoffs Does this still apply: 12F. Home Field Advantage The higher seed in the 1st round of the playoffs will have 7 points added to their score as a home field advantage. There will be no home field advantage in the championship game since that is considered to take place at a neutral site. This is from the Rules section of the MFL site. Not sure if it still applies since it only mentions Round 1.

December 19th, 2011, 01:22 PM	#25
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2011 Playoffs this was eliminated years ago: http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8988 I guess it was never removed from the Rulebook... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 19th, 2011, 01:23 PM	#26
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: 2011 Playoffs Looks like it is going to be an all Reggie White division SAC'd Bowl!! Well done Frank and Brandon!! good luck to you both!! __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 19th, 2011, 01:52 PM	#28
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: 2011 Playoffs Wouldn't have helped me near enough with my selected starters either... Take him down Brandon!!! __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2...

December 19th, 2011, 03:16 PM	#29
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: 2011 Playoffs Woooooooooooo! __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

December 19th, 2011, 06:50 PM	#30
bigmash33 SAC'D Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,767	Re: 2011 Playoffs Good luck in the finals guys. It's funny how that a matchup that didn't even involve Frank helped him get in the playoffs. He was on the outside looking in until Rivers and VJax had a huge game on MNF to lead the Clowns over me in the last week which dropped me to a three way tie with Frank and Bobby and got Frank in....where if it was just Frank and Bobby tied, Bobby would have been in. FF has weird luck sometimes....

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